[THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
- From: "Lilley, Brian" <brian.lilley@xxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:02:22 +0100
incidentally, word on the street is the PS4 AIE doesn't provide isolation for
most MS apps because they cannot isolate signed DLL's??
I absolutely agree with app optimisation software - this stuff works miracles
and I'm amazed it was never included in the base OS (exc. 2003 adv etc)
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Sent: 13 July 2005 16:53
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
For something like this virtualising or isolating the apps is almost
certainly a requirement (see: Softgrid or app isolation environments in
PS4), and performance optimisation software (tscale, armtech, appsense).
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff
> Sent: 13 July 2005 16:09
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> Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
>
> I run a server with this for a development team of about 16,
> but rarely do we see more than 4-6 users at a time. I saw
> performance degradation when I had 10 users compile a large
> app at the same time, but its been pretty stable and that
> useage pattern isn't normal, so I would feel pretty confident
> putting 20 or so users on there doing normal development,
> anything more and things may get interesting because the IDE
> is very inefficient for running apps.
>
> I would strongly recommend, if you plan on pushing it to 20
> users and beyond, that you use a CPU and/or memory
> optimization package like tscale or armtech because your
> developers will starve each other and the OS.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/academic/techdown/techprod/netframew
> ork/devsys
> /devsysws03/default.aspx is a link to a bunch of stuff about
> doing just this.
>
> Permissions can be hard - for some tasks (debugging asp.net apps in
> IIS5) they need to be local admins (whidbey is supposed to
> fix this problem). I simply use a runas and set up a local
> admin which they run the app as once they log in if they need
> to do this. When I migrate this to Win2k3, I can use II6
> which allows me to give each developer their own app pool
> which runs as them, and then they can debug to their hearts content.
>
> Sysinternals is crucial since when they aren't running as
> local admin they still need extra perms to HKCR, et al.
>
> Oh, and take images a lot, since at some point a third party
> control will get installed that will fuxor everything.
>
> SourceSafe (I assume that's what you mean) was very easy and
> runs great.
> VS.NET is tougher, but as long as you are willing to spend
> some time tweaking registry permissions and take steps to
> control changes (third party control installation etc.) it
> can be pretty stable.
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