You add the third party control just like you would add an update to the
package so you don't have to re-sequence the entire application again.
Also, you can take this new sequence and deploy it real-time without asking
any users to log off of your TS box and without rebooting the TS box.
-----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff Sent: 13 July 2005 18:46 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
How does it deal with controls - if you need to add a new third-party control, do you go back and re-sequence it, since this is considered part of the environment?
> -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Mangan > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:56 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET > > Not deploy, but I did sequence it and test it under SoftGrid and it > worked great. > > tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:38 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET > > If I needed to support more developers, or deploy the app on > general-use servers, I probably would opt for the softricity route. > > Has anyone used Softricity to deploy vs.net? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil > > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:53 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET > > > > For something like this virtualising or isolating the apps > is almost > > certainly a requirement (see: Softgrid or app isolation > environments > > in PS4), and performance optimisation software (tscale, armtech, > > appsense). > > > > Neil > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff > > > Sent: 13 July 2005 16:09 > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET > > > > > > I run a server with this for a development team of about 16, but > > > rarely do we see more than 4-6 users at a time. I saw performance > > > degradation when I had 10 users compile a large app at the > > same time, > > > but its been pretty stable and that useage pattern isn't > > normal, so I > > > would feel pretty confident putting 20 or so users on there doing > > > normal development, anything more and things may get interesting > > > because the IDE is very inefficient for running apps. > > > > > > I would strongly recommend, if you plan on pushing it to 20 > > users and > > > beyond, that you use a CPU and/or memory optimization > package like > > > tscale or armtech because your developers will starve each > > other and > > > the OS. > > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/academic/techdown/techprod/netframew > > > ork/devsys > > > /devsysws03/default.aspx is a link to a bunch of stuff > about doing > > > just this. > > > > > > Permissions can be hard - for some tasks (debugging > asp.net apps in > > > IIS5) they need to be local admins (whidbey is supposed > to fix this > > > problem). I simply use a runas and set up a local admin > > which they run > > > the app as once they log in if they need to do this. When > I migrate > > > this to Win2k3, I can use II6 which allows me to give each > > developer > > > their own app pool which runs as them, and then they can debug to > > > their hearts content. > > > > > > Sysinternals is crucial since when they aren't running as > > local admin > > > they still need extra perms to HKCR, et al. > > > > > > Oh, and take images a lot, since at some point a third > > party control > > > will get installed that will fuxor everything. > > > > > > SourceSafe (I assume that's what you mean) was very easy and runs > > > great. > > > VS.NET is tougher, but as long as you are willing to spend > > some time > > > tweaking registry permissions and take steps to control > > changes (third > > > party control installation etc.) it can be pretty stable.
