[THIN] Re: TSCALE or Appsense

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:18:20 -0700

Curious as to why you think Appsense is better than Armtech in terms of CPU
optimization?  Armtech is a true CPU workload scheduler where as AppSense
does CPU clamping.  Clamping is ok if you're trying to limit a runaway
processes, but how does AppSense know the difference between a runaway
process and an intensive one?  What happens when you get 2 or three of these
runaway processes?  Armtech work by providing a fair share value to
individual processes (used to be by session).  So if you have an intensive
process,  it will be allowed to use more of the processor without affecting
overall performance.  Note that TScale simple changes thread priority,
something you can do for free with threadmaster,

Joe

On 1/6/07, Rick Mack <ulrich.mack@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Angela,

TScale provides memory optimization by using DLL remapping to save memory.
AppSense performance mamager does the same thing, BUT it also provides
memory usage limits and more importantly working set trimming. The latter
can add up to huge memory savings if the amount of memory allocated to an
application can be trimmed back to just what it needs, and essentialy
stripped back to next to nothing if the application or session is idle or
the session is disconnected.

AppSense is just a much more advanced product when it comes to memory
management.

As Jim noted, the other priduct that has to be considered is Aurema
Armtech since it's been OEMed by Microsoft for the Windows System Resource
Manager (WSRM) included with Server 2003 Enterprise and DataCenter and
Citrix (CPU management component of PS4 Enterprise). But I'd still rate
AppSense as being way ahead of Armtech in terms of virtual memory
optimization and CPU utilization.

regards,

Rick

Ulrich Mack
Commander Australia
On 1/6/07, Angela Smith <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Im tossing up between buying either TScale or Appsense and was wondering
> what the majority of people are using and what their experiences have
> been.
> Ive heard good things about both products.  My main issue is that I need
> to
> tune memory / swap usage and both products supposedly do this.
>
> Thanks
>
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