[THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
- From: "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:54:50 -0000
FWIW, I agree with some of the sentiment.
I did some work, briefly, in making a Linux (Fedora 2) desktop tenable
as a corporate desktop (basically, usable interface, openoffice, and
common authentication) and have done work on integrating Macs within
Active Directory, too.
I have a Linux PC on my desk, that integrates with Active Directory
(populates a computer object), authenticates using LDAP and Kerberos
(using direct methods, rather than by proxy). So I can use the same
credentials I use on my XP PC, and use openoffice, and access Windows
file resources - and given that I think there's a Novell freeware plugin
for Ximian for Exchange connectivity. I've not done any work on
equivalence of GPOs for local desktop config, though - and that would
likely take a while, since it's been a while since I've done a lot of
work on UNIX platforms.
I also worked on integrating Macs with Active Directory - currently just
LDAP authentication and the use of Windows file resources for home
directory (on the Mac) mapping, then Citrix WI stuff for Microsoft apps
(Office and the like).
However, in all of this, it's either been an interest thing, or a
bespoke / fringe thing. Not a direct competition. Although it does
demonstrate a possibility with the Linux desktop, for notional free
software licenses (although in reality, it's likely that corporate
licensing would be adopted were it used in anger).
The reality is, though, that Microsoft does dominate the desktop market,
and for the foreseeable (even if with some work there may be some
alternatives). Because it's a lot of work, and lack of comfort zone for
corporates to implement other alternatives.
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Spriggs Jon
> Sent: 05 January 2005 10:41
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
> I'd query that.. From what I know of things, the Mac's lead
> the charge in the States (although in the UK the Mac isn't
> really a player as far as I've seen), and Linux is now making
> headway into changing that perception. Products such as
> OpenOffice.Org and Ximian for Linux and Microsoft Office for
> Mac (I think they still make that...?) allow you to work
> without using Windows... Infact, for home, the three main
> reasons given for not moving to Linux are games
> incompatibility, lack of familiarity and .. Well, not knowing
> about it.
>
> In business, linux is slowly moving to maturity in the
> desktop, and more and more open source software is being
> recognised as acceptable or approved.
>
> Novell's move into the Linux market seems to have made it
> more acceptable to look at Linux, and the Office of
> Egovernment (or whatever they are called
> now) report saying that Linux is acceptable helped as well...
>
> Or, at least - that's how I see it from the perspective of a
> Linux Advocate
> ;)
>
> Jon Spriggs
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Smith [mailto:nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 January 2005 09:47
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
>
> No, it's not: but I can buy an Athlon PC and still work in
> business if I choose. Intel's monopoly is breachable on the
> desktop; MS isn't.
>
> Nick Smith,
> Managing Director,
> OfficeAnyplace
> Tel: 020 7819 0090
> nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Shonk [mailto:joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 January 2005 00:08
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
> Is it any different that Intel taking a 3.6 GHz processor and
> locking it = at 2.8 GHz? Yet still charging more for the 3.6
> over the 2.8 chip?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Nick Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:13 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
> I'm with Steve. It is the only significant difference, and it
> is used to justify the MS tax on new PCs being 100% higher
> for business than home.=20
>
> Nick Smith,
> Managing Director,
> OfficeAnyplace
> Tel: 020 7819 0090
> nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: 04 January 2005 10:26
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
> Hardly. See the word "Home" in the software title? How many
> people have domains at home? It's one harmless way of
> differentiating between the = two products.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 03 January 2005 22:31
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
>
>
> Or how about one of those "not so subtle" differences!
>
> I consider that "feature" to be crippleware, they have to
> intentionally remove the feature so they can charge more for it !!=20
>
>
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:22 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
>
> XP Home doesn't support domains... It's one of the subtle
> differences between Home and Pro.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Jeff Stockard
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:06 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] OT XP home on an NT domain
>
> I have a fiend who brought his Windows XP Home OS computer to
> work. This company has an NT 4.0 domain controller. All of
> the other users = are running Windows 98.=20 When the Windows
> 98 computers start up, you get a login prompt with the three
> lines for Username, password and Domain. When the Windows XP
> Home computer logs in, it does not even ask for a username or
> password. He can use all of the resources on the network =
> and even share his printer. Every time he opens Internet
> Explorer (or any = other program that uses the Internet), he
> gets a login prompt, that asks for = his username and
> password. He has to put in domainname\username in the =
> username line and his password in the next line. I have tried
> to disable the fast login thing, so it asks for a username =
> and password, but I can not get it to ask for a domain name.
> Does anyone know how to get the computer to ask for it just
> the once at login, instead of retyping it every time he goes
> to the Internet? Thank you, Jeff Stockard Jesus Loves You
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