[THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
- From: Spriggs Jon <Jon.Spriggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:40:40 -0000
OK, I'm not trying to turn it into a war (that's the last thing I want!),
but I am interested... What do you think it would take to break the
monopoly? What areas do you think would need to be improved for it to be
considered as a usable desktop client? At what point would the sums be worth
it to the customer?
Jon Spriggs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Smith [mailto:nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 January 2005 10:37
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
<Sigh>
Hoping we could avoid a Linux war.
</sigh>
Yes, Linux is great, lovely and wonderful.
And if I try to convince my clients to move to it thus throwing away all the
training and knowledge their end-user staff have, they will laugh at me.
Then I can show them sums, which suggest that they save around
£200/desktop/OS. Then they laugh at me again because it's such a miniscule
part of their IT budget.
Right now, Windows is the Desktop player. Macs are fine if all you want to
do is use Office, and design stuff - but that's a tiny market. The database
apps are almost all for Wintel. In a few year's time that may change. But
Linux advocates have been saying that this is the year for Linux on the
desktop for a couple of years now - and we still have an MS Monopoly.
Nick Smith,
Managing Director,
OfficeAnyplace
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-----Original Message-----
From: Spriggs Jon [mailto:Jon.Spriggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 January 2005 10:41
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
I'd query that.. From what I know of things, the Mac's lead the charge in
the States (although in the UK the Mac isn't really a player as far as I've
seen), and Linux is now making headway into changing that perception.
Products such as OpenOffice.Org and Ximian for Linux and Microsoft Office
for Mac (I think they still make that...?) allow you to work without using
Windows... Infact, for home, the three main reasons given for not moving to
Linux are games incompatibility, lack of familiarity and .. Well, not
knowing about it.
In business, linux is slowly moving to maturity in the desktop, and more and
more open source software is being recognised as acceptable or approved.
Novell's move into the Linux market seems to have made it more acceptable to
look at Linux, and the Office of Egovernment (or whatever they are called
now) report saying that Linux is acceptable helped as well...
Or, at least - that's how I see it from the perspective of a Linux Advocate
;)
Jon Spriggs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Smith [mailto:nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 January 2005 09:47
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
No, it's not: but I can buy an Athlon PC and still work in business if I
choose. Intel's monopoly is breachable on the desktop; MS isn't.
Nick Smith,
Managing Director,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 January 2005 00:08
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
Is it any different that Intel taking a 3.6 GHz processor and locking it =
at 2.8 GHz? Yet still charging more for the 3.6 over the 2.8 chip?
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:13 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
I'm with Steve. It is the only significant difference, and it is used to
justify the MS tax on new PCs being 100% higher for business than home.=20
Nick Smith,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 04 January 2005 10:26
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
Hardly. See the word "Home" in the software title? How many people have
domains at home? It's one harmless way of differentiating between the = two
products.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 January 2005 22:31
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
Or how about one of those "not so subtle" differences!
I consider that "feature" to be crippleware, they have to intentionally
remove the feature so they can charge more for it !!=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT XP home on an NT domain
XP Home doesn't support domains... It's one of the subtle differences
between Home and Pro.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf Of Jeff Stockard
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:06 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] OT XP home on an NT domain
I have a fiend who brought his Windows XP Home OS computer to work. This
company has an NT 4.0 domain controller. All of the other users = are
running Windows 98.=20 When the Windows 98 computers start up, you get a
login prompt with the three lines for Username, password and Domain. When
the Windows XP Home computer logs in, it does not even ask for a username or
password. He can use all of the resources on the network = and even share
his printer. Every time he opens Internet Explorer (or any = other program
that uses the Internet), he gets a login prompt, that asks for = his
username and password. He has to put in domainname\username in the =
username line and his password in the next line. I have tried to disable the
fast login thing, so it asks for a username = and password, but I can not
get it to ask for a domain name. Does anyone know how to get the computer to
ask for it just the once at login, instead of retyping it every time he goes
to the Internet? Thank you, Jeff Stockard Jesus Loves You
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