[THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
- From: Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:45:38 -0400
Oh Jim... I think there are support groups for this... We are here for
you... ;)
On 6/6/08 3:38 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jim, you seem to know an awful lot about the topic?. J
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jim Kenzig
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:23 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
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> Lol.
> Well you know it is because of P-O-R-N that the computer industry has evolved
> like it did. Chatting, Video, Pictures, virtual worlds, games, all would not
> be where they are now had it not been for it and it IS documented. Think about
> it Things like virtual girl existed long before second life. The only thing
> video was used for was that, the most images I can remember being out there
> even when there were just BBS's were you got it.
> Jim
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> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Dana Carvey said to Mark and Wes during his stand up routine, "So what is this
> XEN Desktop thing? I get my desktop, now what the hell do I do? Ok (imitating
> a Nerd), type P-O-R-N!!!"
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> Think about the Citrix message a "new desktop computer every time you boot
> up"? think about who needs that exactly??
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> Steve Greenberg
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> Thin Client Computing
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> (602) 432-8649
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Douglas Brown
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:50 AM
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> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
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> And? What is it?
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> On 6/6/08 2:48 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
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> Oh crap, I just realized what the real killer app is for VDI??
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> Dana Carvey nailed it at SYNERGY, seemed like a joke but I think it is right
> on the money !
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> Steve Greenberg
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> Thin Client Computing
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> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
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> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
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> (602) 432-8649
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> www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net> <www.thinclient.net
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> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas Brown
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
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> I agree but only if they don't burry it in XenApp Plat or XenDesktop Plat. It
> needs to be a separate product for people who might not want to use either
> XenApp or XenDesktop....
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> On 6/6/08 9:58 AM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx
> <http://joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
> Why also discuss PVS and if it should be part of XenApp Platinum ( I'm willing
> to give up Edgesight and Password Manager in exchange) and should Citrix fix
> their products or spend their money adding new features.
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> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:52 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
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> Speaking of Joe this is one of my favorite picturess I took from Synergy This
> is during Dougs Geek Speak session and is a picture of the front row.
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> http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#52032010390493145
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> From left to right Joe is the one Hovering standing next to Brad Stephens, who
> is Next to Mark Templeton who is next to Shawn Bass (who had just finished his
> VDI talk) Barry Flanagan, Jeroen Van De Kamp and Brian Madden are in there
> also. Now use the right arrow and click over 2 pictures and see how fast
> Brian catches Marks ear. Click 2 more to the right and there is Grumpy Doug.
> And here is one of Steve, Joe and Doug picking apart VDI at the CTP dinner
> http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#52032011764882682
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> Jim
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> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
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> This is a long standing debate between Joe and I . To me VDI, and most
> hypervisor virtualizations for that matter, are just not efficient enough. For
> applications that require remoting and certain kinds of processing I am sure
> there is a good match, i.e. stock traders, CAD engineers working at a
> distance, etc.
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> The case we are pondering more and more is where remoting is needed but the
> requirements to get the application set working in TS are highly complicated.
> These may not be highly specialized apps, but apps that just don't play well
> in TS. We have made some incredibly difficult apps work together on TS, but in
> the end you have a very complicated system that is hard to upgrade and change.
> So for certain organizations that have the skills to manage a PC but not a
> complex TS environment, VDI starts to become attractive.
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> One of our Bri-Forum sessions is called "Y-VDI" in which we will outline all
> the use cases we can think of that support VDI.
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> My main issues with VDI are lack of efficiency, i.e. a really big ass server
> might support 15-20 users, that completely sucks!!
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