[THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
- From: Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:34:24 -0400
Jim, I agree with disagree. I think the ³gaming² world has brought
computers farther than the ³P-O-R-N² world. We don¹t need super video
cards, support CPUs and all that memory for P-O-R-N. It is for video
games... IMHO
On 6/6/08 3:22 PM, "Jim Kenzig" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Lol.
> Well you know it is because of P-O-R-N that the computer industry has evolved
> like it did. Chatting, Video, Pictures, virtual worlds, games, all would not
> be where they are now had it not been for it and it IS documented. Think about
> it Things like virtual girl existed long before second life. The only thing
> video was used for was that, the most images I can remember being out there
> even when there were just BBS's were you got it.
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dana Carvey said to Mark and Wes during his stand up routine, "So what is
>> this XEN Desktop thing? I get my desktop, now what the hell do I do? Ok
>> (imitating a Nerd), type P-O-R-N!!!"
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>> Think about the Citrix message a "new desktop computer every time you boot
>> up"? think about who needs that exactly??
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>> Steve Greenberg
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>> Thin Client Computing
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>> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Douglas Brown
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:50 AM
>>
>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
>> ofVirtualization
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>>
>> And? What is it?
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>> On 6/6/08 2:48 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
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>> Oh crap, I just realized what the real killer app is for VDI??
>>
>> Dana Carvey nailed it at SYNERGY, seemed like a joke but I think it is right
>> on the money !
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>>
>> Steve Greenberg
>>
>> Thin Client Computing
>>
>> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
>>
>> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
>>
>> (602) 432-8649
>>
>> www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net> <www.thinclient.net
>> <http://www.thinclient.net> >
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>> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
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>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas Brown
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 AM
>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
>> ofVirtualization
>>
>> I agree but only if they don't burry it in XenApp Plat or XenDesktop Plat.
>> It needs to be a separate product for people who might not want to use either
>> XenApp or XenDesktop....
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>> On 6/6/08 9:58 AM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx
>> <http://joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
>> Why also discuss PVS and if it should be part of XenApp Platinum ( I'm
>> willing to give up Edgesight and Password Manager in exchange) and should
>> Citrix fix their products or spend their money adding new features.
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>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:52 AM
>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
>> ofVirtualization
>>
>>
>> Speaking of Joe this is one of my favorite picturess I took from Synergy This
>> is during Dougs Geek Speak session and is a picture of the front row.
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>> http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#5203201039049314
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>> From left to right Joe is the one Hovering standing next to Brad Stephens,
>> who is Next to Mark Templeton who is next to Shawn Bass (who had just
>> finished his VDI talk) Barry Flanagan, Jeroen Van De Kamp and Brian Madden
>> are in there also. Now use the right arrow and click over 2 pictures and see
>> how fast Brian catches Marks ear. Click 2 more to the right and there is
>> Grumpy Doug. And here is one of Steve, Joe and Doug picking apart VDI at the
>> CTP dinner
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#5203201176488268
>> 290
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>> Jim
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>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
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>> This is a long standing debate between Joe and I . To me VDI, and most
>> hypervisor virtualizations for that matter, are just not efficient enough.
>> For applications that require remoting and certain kinds of processing I am
>> sure there is a good match, i.e. stock traders, CAD engineers working at a
>> distance, etc.
>>
>> The case we are pondering more and more is where remoting is needed but the
>> requirements to get the application set working in TS are highly complicated.
>> These may not be highly specialized apps, but apps that just don't play well
>> in TS. We have made some incredibly difficult apps work together on TS, but
>> in the end you have a very complicated system that is hard to upgrade and
>> change. So for certain organizations that have the skills to manage a PC but
>> not a complex TS environment, VDI starts to become attractive.
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>> One of our Bri-Forum sessions is called "Y-VDI" in which we will outline all
>> the use cases we can think of that support VDI.
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>> My main issues with VDI are lack of efficiency, i.e. a really big ass server
>> might support 15-20 users, that completely sucks!!
>>
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