-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Why not use the actual Intel drivers, instead of the ones provided by IBM? I NEVER trust the vendor for the driver, except for the RAID card, SCSI card, and certain Proliant servers. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jaimes, Leon Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:24 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys The proset is ProSet II version 4.01 On 2 of the servers it gives me an error when I try to open it that says Proset failed to initialize please restart the system or re-install the adapter drivers. Last time I tried to do a reinstall it sucked, so does anyone know the fix from IBM for this, it say on their support site that I have to call the support center and then they charge, not for the fix mind you, but for the time to talk to the tech. They kept making that point when I kept telling them I shouldn't have to pay for it... Maybe I should start a new thread or this one. Thanks all - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:04 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yeah. But only when dealing with the older ProSET and upgrading to ProSETII. I haven't had a single issue with version 6< of the ProSET software. Chris - - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rowlandson, John Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:31 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Mallesons Stephen Jaques www.mallesons.com Confidential communication love is a strong word for a computer program ;) i just know from my experience that it does work if setup properly. there are a few MS articles on increasing buffers that we had to do on our A-A fileclusters with 1.2Tb of disk behind them with AV turned on. but all in all it does work. the intel proset drivers upgrade sucks, i usually have to remove the older version totally, reboot (without network access as nics are gone) and then install proset II JOhn John Rowlandson Technical Support Specialist Mallesons Stephen Jaques Sydney T +61 2 9296 3653 F +61 2 9296 3999 john.rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Lynch Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2003 9:26 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Not to butt in here, but I know how much John loves McAfee (NAI) AV, I have always had issues with McAfee. Both at the server and workstation level. When was the last DAT update? Have you attempted to manually apply a SuperDAT? I know that fixes "some" issues like this in the past for me. Might want to try that. Chris - - - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Lambert Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:16 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys That's interesting. Is it a load balanced team on the NICs, or a failover team? - - - -----Original Message----- From: Jaimes, Leon [mailto:Leon.Jaimes@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:18 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys SP3 for win2k and sp2 for MetaFrame XPe. I uninstalled VS off of 2 of the 4 that crashed and everything has been running fine on all 4 so I agree that VS isn't the issue unless it only crashes when there are 4 servers with it running? problem not. I'll keep hunting Thanks Leon -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Lambert [mailto:rlambert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:05 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Leon, I would not scan outbound. But that's more like a driver/compatibility issue, what you are seeing. I don't think it's related - - -- but you could attempt to exclude tcpip.sys if you really believe that AV is the issue (which personally, I don't). What Service Pack are you on? -----Original Message----- From: Jaimes, Leon [mailto:Leon.Jaimes@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:29 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys So... I'm a dumb arse admin who needs a little help with this, Are you saying that the ie scan is possibly causing the problem? If so is it the the inbound and outbound or one or the other? Am I incorrect in thinking that IE is a high risk process? Do you have any other tuning tips that might help me? Thanks in advance Leon -----Original Message----- From: Rowlandson, John [mailto:John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:38 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Mallesons Stephen Jaques www.mallesons.com Confidential communication mcafee (and other av programs) dont kill servers, its dumb arse admins who dont know how to configure it and leave it at default settings that kill servers. ie scan inbound and outbound by default, why would you do that? i have mcafee 7.1 on 80 servers so far, file servers, citrix 2000, citrix 2003, flie clusters, web clusters, exchange servers, you name it. John Rowlandson Technical Support Specialist Mallesons Stephen Jaques Sydney T +61 2 9296 3653 F +61 2 9296 3999 john.rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Riggins Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2003 1:52 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys I'd put money on it that McCrappy AV is the culprit. I'd call NAI first. If they can't help, I'd reapply your service pack. If that doesn't work, I'd roll back to your previous AV. Good luck! R -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jaimes, Leon Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:39 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Raff, We have a temp monitor that is reporting 77o F which is within the specs. Both the affected and unaffected servers are in the same cabinet at a hosting facility so I think the environment is ok. They all are on the same subnet. The only software changes were installing the Virus Scan, but we had let it run on one server for about a week with no problems, then did the others. It is configured identically for each server and is on all 6. There have not been any updates to the hard/firm/software other than that in the past month. 3 of the servers that went down are identical in hardware to one that didn't, these all have dual 10/100 nics and the 4th that went down is a newer server that has dual 10/100/1000 nics The drivers are all up to date and identical for the 10/100s. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Steve Raffensberger [mailto:sraffens1@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:26 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Leon, I would also check outside the boxes for clues. When multiple boxes take a dump together, there is usually an external cause. Are the three affected servers on the same subnet or network switch and different from the unaffected ones? Has anyone made any hard/firm/software changes to network equipment that is in contact with the affected servers? Do the affected servers all get their electrical power from the same PDU and the unaffected ones differ? Inside the boxes...do the affected servers share the same NIC's while unaffected servers differ? NIC drivers? HTH, Raff -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jaimes, Leon Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:05 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Hello List I just had all three of my Citrix application servers crash. It was about 30 min. between the first 2 and then about an hour till the 3rd went down. We brought in a 4th that we keep as a backup and it took about 15 min. for it to do the same. We are running W2K SP3 with Citrix MetaFrame XPe FR2 on IBM xSeries 330 servers with dual Netfinity NICs that are teamed. The most recent change that is consistent with all servers is that we installed Virus Scan v7 on all of them. We have a Data Store server and a file server both of which are fine. The only ones that don't server the published desktop. This is about the 5th time this has happened, but never to all at once like this. This is the message. STOP: 0X000000D1 (0X00000006,0X00000002,0X00000001,0XBFA239A9) DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ADDRESS BFA239A9 BASE AT BFA29000, DATESTAMP 3cdaee1a - tcpip.sys I got this off the blue screen, but it also has come up as a console message on them after they hang/crash. I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling TCP/IP and the NIC drivers are up to date. Also if anyone has any opinions on Teaming good or bad I would be interested. Thanks Leon Jaimes PPRM Information Technology Department (303) 813-7614 <mailto:leon.jaimes@xxxxxxxx <mailto:leon.jaimes@xxxxxxxx> > Notice of Confidentiality: This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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