[THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys
- From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:28:22 -0800
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One word of advice when using the ProSET software and teaming:
Never ghost a machine that has a team configured. Always use the ProSET
software to create AND delete a team. NEVER use load balancing. If you
need a "fatter pipe", then do EtherChannel or 802.1q. Otherwise just do
failover.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jaimes, Leon
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:45 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving
tcpip.sys
load balanced using Intel proset, which I think I might do away with and
switch to no teaming. One of the servers I can't even open the Intel
proset, I had this problem trying to upgrade this software a few months ago
and ended up having to restore the server form ghost.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Lambert [mailto:rlambert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error
involving tcpip.sys
That's interesting. Is it a load balanced team on the NICs, or a
failover team?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jaimes, Leon [mailto:Leon.Jaimes@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:18 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error
involving tcpip.sys
SP3 for win2k and sp2 for MetaFrame XPe.
I uninstalled VS off of 2 of the 4 that crashed and everything has
been running fine on all 4 so I agree that VS isn't the issue unless it only
crashes when there are 4 servers with it running? problem not. I'll keep
hunting
Thanks
Leon
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Lambert [mailto:rlambert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:05 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP
error involving tcpip.sys
Leon,
I would not scan outbound. But that's more like a
driver/compatibility issue, what you are seeing. I don't think it's related
-- but you could attempt to exclude tcpip.sys if you really believe that AV
is the issue (which personally, I don't).
What Service Pack are you on?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jaimes, Leon [mailto:Leon.Jaimes@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:29 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP
error involving tcpip.sys
So... I'm a dumb arse admin who needs a little help with
this,
Are you saying that the ie scan is possibly causing the
problem?
If so is it the the inbound and outbound or one or the
other?
Am I incorrect in thinking that IE is a high risk process?
Do you have any other tuning tips that might help me?
Thanks in advance
Leon
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From: Rowlandson, John
[mailto:John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang
with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys
Mallesons Stephen Jaques
www.mallesons.com
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mcafee (and other av programs) dont kill servers,
its dumb arse admins who dont know how to configure it and leave it at
default settings that kill servers.
ie scan inbound and outbound by default, why would
you do that?
i have mcafee 7.1 on 80 servers so far, file
servers, citrix 2000, citrix 2003, flie clusters, web clusters, exchange
servers, you name it.
John Rowlandson
Technical Support Specialist
Mallesons Stephen Jaques
Sydney
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Riggins
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2003 1:52 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers
hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys
I'd put money on it that McCrappy AV is the
culprit. I'd call NAI first. If they can't help, I'd reapply your service
pack. If that doesn't work, I'd roll back to your previous AV.
Good luck!
R
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jaimes, Leon
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:39 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers
hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys
Raff,
We have a temp monitor that is reporting 77o
F which is within the specs. Both the affected and unaffected servers are
in the same cabinet at a hosting facility so I think the environment is ok.
They all are on the same subnet. The only software changes were installing
the Virus Scan, but we had let it run on one server for about a week with no
problems, then did the others. It is configured identically for each server
and is on all 6. There have not been any updates to the hard/firm/software
other than that in the past month. 3 of the servers that went down are
identical in hardware to one that didn't, these all have dual 10/100 nics
and the 4th that went down is a newer server that has dual 10/100/1000 nics
The drivers are all up to date and identical for the 10/100s.
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Raffensberger
[mailto:sraffens1@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:26 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers
hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys
Leon,
I would also check outside the boxes
for clues. When multiple boxes take a dump together, there is usually an
external cause. Are the three affected servers on the same subnet or
network switch and different from the unaffected ones? Has anyone made any
hard/firm/software changes to network equipment that is in contact with the
affected servers? Do the affected servers all get their electrical power
from the same PDU and the unaffected ones differ?
Inside the boxes...do the affected
servers share the same NIC's while unaffected servers differ? NIC drivers?
HTH,
Raff
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From:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Jaimes, Leon
Sent: Tuesday, November 25,
2003 8:05 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Anyone ever
had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys
Hello List
I just had all three of my
Citrix application servers crash. It was about 30 min. between the first 2
and then about an hour till the 3rd went down. We brought in a 4th that we
keep as a backup and it took about 15 min. for it to do the same.
We are running W2K SP3 with
Citrix MetaFrame XPe FR2 on IBM xSeries 330 servers with dual Netfinity NICs
that are teamed.
The most recent change that
is consistent with all servers is that we installed Virus Scan v7 on all of
them. We have a Data Store server and a file server both of which are fine.
The only ones that don't server the published desktop.
This is about the 5th time
this has happened, but never to all at once like this.
This is the message.
STOP: 0X000000D1
(0X00000006,0X00000002,0X00000001,0XBFA239A9) DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
ADDRESS BFA239A9 BASE AT
BFA29000, DATESTAMP 3cdaee1a - tcpip.sys
I got this off the blue
screen, but it also has come up as a console message on them after they
hang/crash.
I already tried uninstalling
and reinstalling TCP/IP and the NIC drivers are up to date.
Also if anyone has any
opinions on Teaming good or bad I would be interested.
Thanks
Leon Jaimes
PPRM Information Technology
Department
(303) 813-7614
<mailto:leon.jaimes@xxxxxxxx
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