Sorry, I meant Citrix Service Pack level. You said FR2, but SP2 as well? -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Lambert Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:05 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Leon, I would not scan outbound. But that's more like a driver/compatibility issue, what you are seeing. I don't think it's related -- but you could attempt to exclude tcpip.sys if you really believe that AV is the issue (which personally, I don't). What Service Pack are you on? -----Original Message----- From: Jaimes, Leon [mailto:Leon.Jaimes@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:29 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys So... I'm a dumb arse admin who needs a little help with this, Are you saying that the ie scan is possibly causing the problem? If so is it the the inbound and outbound or one or the other? Am I incorrect in thinking that IE is a high risk process? Do you have any other tuning tips that might help me? Thanks in advance Leon -----Original Message----- From: Rowlandson, John [mailto:John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:38 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Mallesons Stephen Jaques www.mallesons.com Confidential communication mcafee (and other av programs) dont kill servers, its dumb arse admins who dont know how to configure it and leave it at default settings that kill servers. ie scan inbound and outbound by default, why would you do that? i have mcafee 7.1 on 80 servers so far, file servers, citrix 2000, citrix 2003, flie clusters, web clusters, exchange servers, you name it. John Rowlandson Technical Support Specialist Mallesons Stephen Jaques Sydney T +61 2 9296 3653 F +61 2 9296 3999 john.rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roger Riggins Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2003 1:52 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys I'd put money on it that McCrappy AV is the culprit. I'd call NAI first. If they can't help, I'd reapply your service pack. If that doesn't work, I'd roll back to your previous AV. Good luck! R -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jaimes, Leon Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:39 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Raff, We have a temp monitor that is reporting 77o F which is within the specs. Both the affected and unaffected servers are in the same cabinet at a hosting facility so I think the environment is ok. They all are on the same subnet. The only software changes were installing the Virus Scan, but we had let it run on one server for about a week with no problems, then did the others. It is configured identically for each server and is on all 6. There have not been any updates to the hard/firm/software other than that in the past month. 3 of the servers that went down are identical in hardware to one that didn't, these all have dual 10/100 nics and the 4th that went down is a newer server that has dual 10/100/1000 nics The drivers are all up to date and identical for the 10/100s. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Steve Raffensberger [mailto:sraffens1@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:26 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Leon, I would also check outside the boxes for clues. When multiple boxes take a dump together, there is usually an external cause. Are the three affected servers on the same subnet or network switch and different from the unaffected ones? Has anyone made any hard/firm/software changes to network equipment that is in contact with the affected servers? Do the affected servers all get their electrical power from the same PDU and the unaffected ones differ? Inside the boxes...do the affected servers share the same NIC's while unaffected servers differ? NIC drivers? HTH, Raff -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jaimes, Leon Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:05 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Anyone ever had servers hang with a STOP error involving tcpip.sys Hello List I just had all three of my Citrix application servers crash. It was about 30 min. between the first 2 and then about an hour till the 3rd went down. We brought in a 4th that we keep as a backup and it took about 15 min. for it to do the same. We are running W2K SP3 with Citrix MetaFrame XPe FR2 on IBM xSeries 330 servers with dual Netfinity NICs that are teamed. The most recent change that is consistent with all servers is that we installed Virus Scan v7 on all of them. We have a Data Store server and a file server both of which are fine. The only ones that don't server the published desktop. This is about the 5th time this has happened, but never to all at once like this. This is the message. STOP: 0X000000D1 (0X00000006,0X00000002,0X00000001,0XBFA239A9) DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ADDRESS BFA239A9 BASE AT BFA29000, DATESTAMP 3cdaee1a - tcpip.sys I got this off the blue screen, but it also has come up as a console message on them after they hang/crash. I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling TCP/IP and the NIC drivers are up to date. Also if anyone has any opinions on Teaming good or bad I would be interested. Thanks Leon Jaimes PPRM Information Technology Department (303) 813-7614 < <mailto:leon.jaimes@xxxxxxxx> mailto:leon.jaimes@xxxxxxxx> Notice of Confidentiality: This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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