A/V products is one of those things you ask about and will get 100 different opinions of each product, and everyone seems to have good reasoning behind them. There's heavy hatred for McAfee and Symantec here, with lots of love for Trend I've used both Symantec and McAfee in the enterprise (hundreds of clients, dozens of remote server), As well as on TS and Citrix, with no problems. I actually switched off Symantec only for feature reasons. In 6+ years of use of their Corporate edition I didn't get a single virus outbreak or had any servers crashed, or any outlandish horror stories. They just simply lack the features these days. I've been using McAfee only a few months, and yes, there was a bad DAT the other day, but the ability to rollback a DAT file is extremely easy, and the reporting to know who may not have been rolled back (or just in general) is excellent. I think everyone has had, or will continue to have their hiccups in the A/V works. PS - I looked at Trend. I liked it, but I preferred some aspects of McAfee more, and the pricing on Trend was through the roof, no matter how I tried to slice it. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brent Strignano Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:29 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Antivirus All, We also use CA AV and I'm happy with it. Some of the things I like: Their licensing is by seat only but covers all of their AV products under it. We use the desktop, exchange, and gateway av proxy, it is all covered under our single license. Two av engines are included. We use one on our desktops and the other on our exchange and gw proxy. Ver 7.2 does detect terminal services. and wont run realmon unless you are logged in as the admin, if that's how you configure it. You can preconfigure all settings, including turning off the splash screen during the push install to the client. You can also create multiple "settings" files for different groups of computers when you install. Its tiny and fast. We have also made great use of the remote configuration abilities. We have turned one machine in each office into a distribution server so all other clients pull updates from it. We also push settings updates to exclude dirs and processes as necessary. I like the centralized reporting. Their tech support has always been helpful, and spoke English as a first language. Some things I don't like: No late build Linux support. RH9 is that latest supported build, last time I checked. No source download and build yourself either. You cant push single driver or program updates with the push installer without resending the entire installation. Instead we use Kixstart, but will soon switch to SMS to do program updates. Their definition files are never first out of the gate for newly discovered viruses. Also one engine might receive updates hours after the other. CA says there are different teams working separately for each engine and that accounts for the difference. Some virus names are different for each engine. Same reason as above. When they purchased pest patrol I had hoped they would integrate that functionality into their AV. Nope, separate product and license. Their patches are confusing, some have .exe installers some are these weird .caz (zip) files that you need to manually extract and copy into the program directory yourself. Hope this helps, Brent ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:32 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Antivirus Just to clarify. McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0i does not use realmon.exe, that's specific to CA's product. The splash screen thing is correct, as far as I know, but that really doesn't bother me, or my users. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:56 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Antivirus Their installer is crap. That, and like McAfee you have to modify the registry to turn off the splash screen and RealMonitor Animation. Actually, it's best to remove RealMon.exe value from the Run key if you want a usable TS. You'd think they'd be able to detect a TS install and shut this off. Joe ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 6:13 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Antivirus What is wrong with CA? I don't think it is that great but would be curious as to your experience. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Network Manager -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 7:32 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Antivirus Hi, I'd suggest Trend. Certainly can't recommend McAfee's or CA. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of IT Support Sent: Mon 27/03/2006 21:11 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Antivirus Trend Micro is the best imho We are also trialling F-Secure, and it seems to be pretty ok as well... Regards Jaime -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Sent: 27 March 2006 11:52 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Antivirus Hi list, I have to take an urgent decision about to by another antivirus for all pc's and servers. We use W2k server with Citrix XP and also Lotus Domino. Now we've got Panda, but we're fed up with it... Please, could you with me any recomendations with any good antivirus to use inside Citrix? Thanks a lot. ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ ######################################################################## ############# This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. 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