[texbirds] Re: Golden cheeked warbler (Good news)
- From: Toby Hibbitts <thibbitts39@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "rbello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <rbello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:53:40 -0500
As a researcher (not bird research) I would be really irritated if the only
reason someone had to question my results was because of who funded the
research. Basically that would be saying that I was bought. That is a really
inflammatory claim to any scientist.
That said I won't hide who funds my research and nobody in the case of the
golden-cheeked warbler study is either. Dr kostecke already said who funded it
and it shouldn't make a difference which part of our government funded the
project be it txdot the dod or usfws.
My 2 cents
Toby Hibbitts
Texas A&M (I usually post as millican because my personal opinions don't
represent tamu but I wanted to disclose here for future reference)
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On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:47 AM, "Richard Bello" <rbello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Agreed. As someone who is an empirical researcher (though not in any
> aspect of biology), I know that it is possible for results to be altered
> because of unconscious "choices" and not simply because a researcher is
> maliciously altering them.
>
> Rick Bello
> Huntsville, Walker County
> East Texas
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> On Behalf Of Hutch
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> Subject: [texbirds] Re: Golden cheeked warbler (Good news)
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> Funding source does matter and should always be fully disclosed. Or perhaps,
> it usually only starts to matter when it is NOT disclosed.
>
> BB,
> Hutch
> Denver, CO (soon to be Euless, TX)
>
> On 7/29/12, Toby Hibbitts <thibbitts39@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Funding source shouldn't matter or else the researchers should be
>> kicked out of the university for fudging results. Truth is numbers
>> aren't as important as total area of occupied habitat which probably
>> has changed little in recent years.
>> Toby Hibbitts
>> Millican tx
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> This study is controversial and not everybody buys into it given how
>>> extrapolated it was based on aerial photos of possible habitat etc
>>> ...While it has an amazing amount of data and maybe is good with a
>>> lot of effort was put into it, some are not sure it makes the cut.
>>> There are those that would like to know who really backed the funding
>>> for this it seems. Can't say that I agree or disagree with the report
>>> nor do I have the answers for sure, just saying it has its critics,
>>> this I know first hand but am not going to provide that info publicly
>>> or privately as the report may be challenged by those far more
>>> knowledgeable than I. This is just an FYI. If this single study, as a
>>> stand alone effort, leads toward a USFWS de-listing, then a lot of
>>> folks may have reason be concerned. BTW TPWD recently held a meeting
>>> to discuss potential birds to be considered as threatened on the
>>> state level...I am not here to share that list but it should be made
>>> public after the report is complete and the TPW Commissioners etc.
>>> have a chance to review it....What the TPWD and USFWS do are
>>> seperate issues as always...I am not sure the TPWD can add or
>>> subtract any species from the endangered list but they can modify the
>>> lists of SOC in the state for any flora or fauna.
>>>
>>> Also your link does not take one to the article or the paper, but I
>>> am just presuming the report you are referring to is the Morrison.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Charles W. Easley <cwebirds@xxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> All Texas birders:
>>>
>>> The work of the past 40-50 years by concerned Texas birders and
>>> conservation people may be paying off. A & M researchers calculate
>>> the rangewide population of male Golden Cheeked Warblers in Texas at
>>> a shade over 263,000. Previous surveys counted roughly 9,000 to
>>> 54,000 birds. To understand the survey better and read about the
>>> findings of the Fish and Wildlife Service see
>>> http://www.statesman.com/news/local/a-m-study-places-golden-
>>> cheeked-warbler.
>>>
>>> This, I believe, proves in part, that the bird is in better shape,
>>> number wise, than we thought. And my friend, Warren Pulich, now
>>> passed, would be excited about the findings of the survey. We can
>>> make a difference by the things we preserve and protect.
>>>
>>> Charles Easley
>>> Life Member TOS
>>> cwebirds@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Brush Freeman
>>> Independent and affiliated Field Biologist
>>> 361-655-7641
>>> http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/
>>> Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
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