[TechAssist] Re: Projo RCA CTC169 Dead with wrong standby voltages

  • From: Warren <warrenca@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 23:23:11 -0500

Bill
Sorry if I did not make myself clear on the 143V standby Voltage
I do not have a readable 143  I think that it's much higher even though 
I can't read it.
Please reread my other posts  Thanks
WC
Bill Grabowski wrote:

> From my past experience the 14.2 at the 15volt CR4118 is normal and the 
>the regulated B+ at 143volts is also acceptable. See if you get a 26 
>volt reading from the scan derived circuit. Audio output might be 
>shorted causing shutdown. Also diode,cap,or HOT in Horiz section. Just 
>my 2 cents!!
>
>Bill Grabowski
>Triangle Appliance
>Kenosha, WI  53142
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>Warren wrote:
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>>I would like to know :
>>If  there is a problem in the horiz section or elsewhere will it cause 
>>the P.S. to give wrong standby voltages when the set is off
>>and won't turn on??.
>>I must establish if the problem is in the PS or not.
>>When you read the hints on the fishe(RCA)  it says that,  if you have 
>>the 5 V standby  then the problem is probably elsewhere.
>>I have the 5V but the 15V standby is at 14.2 and the 143 is high and my 
>>meter is having trouble reading the voltage.
>>Changed the meter and the same thing.
>>3 Volts also between the cathodes of two diodes at PS (#'s escape me 
>>right now) is too high .All say that this should be <1V when in standby
>>If you read my first posts you will see that I've changed many of the 
>>usual parts.
>>I must establish if the PS should give proper voltages on it's own when 
>>plugged into the wall and possible problems elsewhere???
>>Thanks
>>Warren C
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>>Bill Grabowski wrote:
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>>>Is your Horiz output circuit okay. There are 5 shutdown circuits 
>>>employed on these CTC169's
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>>>Pete wrote:
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>>>>I always replace the caps with the same value on the set, The standby B+
>>>>must be 138-140V, running voltage 143-145V, .
>>>>Remove and clean the running voltage control, inside the black plastic
>>>>cover. 
>>>>check audio output chips removing the plug in the audio board.
>>>>Good luck
>>>>
>>>>pete
>>>>
>>>>Perdomo TV, Inc. Since 1972
>>>>MIami, Fl.
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>>>>From: Warren" <warrenca@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:47 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Projo RCA CTC169 Dead with wrong standby voltages 
>>>>
>>>>Hi all! 
>>>>I will list the work so far: 
>>>>15 V standby =3D 14.2
>>>>5V standby =3D4.9V
>>>>Raw B+=3D151V 
>>>>Regulated B+ is too high I think ...The meter does not like the signal
>>>>at TP4101 some times 197V sometimes 1.97V?? Should the Reg B+ be 143V
>>>>before turn on???? 
>>>>=A0=A0From cathode of CR4106 to Cathode of CR4101 first I had 2
>>>>Volts.... Now
>>>>after changing diodes I get 3 volts??? 
>>>>Should be under 1 Volt. 
>>>>Installed a startup kit from Global Q4101, U4101, C4102, C4118, C4108
>>>>(47uf) which also was a 47UF before. 
>>>>My schematic shows 39uf ?? does this make a difference?? Caps were
>>>>installed first with Q4101 , IC =A0 U4101 was installed 
>>>>afterwards. 
>>>>Also changed C4104(15uf) with also no change.
>>>>I also tried to isolate the H out (curiosity) - no change 
>>>>I've read many tips but most of these point to the parts that I've
>>>>already changed. 
>>>>Can someone brush up my 169 skills.
>>>>What am I missing?? 
>>>>Does anyone have a troubleshooting flow chart for the 169?? This would
>>>>help. 
>>>>BTW when you push the on button you can see the front led give a slight
>>>>single blink. 
>>>>TIA all !
>>>>All tips and comments welcome. 
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