"I dont think my enemy is another shop, but cheap imports." Boy, that could sure win the "Understatement of the Year" award! Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA 26764 dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself" larry wrote: >i am old also, lol >but plan on hanging on for a while yet. >i love this business, and dont want to go home and watch tv, >the rest of my life. >lol >i cry about the 10 of thousands f dollars i have in obsolete >parts but needed them to be able to repair a set the same day. >and also the garbage cans after cans of schematics i have >thrown away, never used. >i guess we all understand that. >I guess the insinuation is that there are too many of us, and >we should not make it easy for small shops to hang on. and >that the guys that invested the most should be entitled to the >remains. >this is not a problem for me, i am the only surviving shop in >the area. >my competition is wal-mart selling a new one cheaper than i >can repair one. >So if i can keep the cost down, by tips or free schematics, i >can survive. >I dont think my enemy is another shop, but cheap imports. >So i help when I can, but i do get tired of the same old >questions, that have been answered every week. i suspect some >must not ever read the list except when they need something. > and i refuse to help someone fix his own set if he isn't >making his living repairing tvs. >just my opinion. >Larry > >lol > > > > >Hoyt's TV wrote: > > >>Maybe Rocky has a large shop in a huge metropolitan service area, so buying >>one of every service manual ever printed is a viable option for him. >> >>I just emptied the contents of two large Philips ring binders, full of VCR >>manuals from the 80s, to make room for the parts book pages for my 78 >>Chrysler survivor. >> >>As I looked at what I was throwing away, I was deeply saddened by the cost >>of it and the fact that I never used a single one of those VCR manuals. I >>still have about 20 feet of shelf space filled with more of those manuals >>from that time, on VCRs, Camcorders, TV's and Magnavox stereos and B&W TVs. >>Another six feet of Zenith folders. Along with 6 four drawer file cabinets >>full of Sams folders. A couple trays of Magnavox, Sylvania, Philco, micro >>fiche. For every foot of Sams folders I can see, on average, one that has >>been taken out of the file drawer. >> >>I no longer subscribe to any of them because I don't make enough money to >>pay for that stuff anymore. I now buy individual manuals as needed and add >>the cost to the customer's bill. If the customer wants to keep the manual, I >>mark it up 50% plus S&H, and sell it to him. >> >>I am happy to share what I do have with any other tech who needs it because >>I know what a loss this stuff is to most of us and the only way we can >>survive is to help each other. >> >>I think most of us realize we are seeing the end times of TV service as a >>viable independent business. A lot of us are old enough so it fits in >>reasonably well with our retirement plans although I would have preferred >>that the business still be strong so I could sell it to help finance my >>retirement. If we are lucky enough to have it work out right, we will use up >>all our TV parts at about the same time we have used up all our body parts. >> >>I feel bad for the guys who are 20 years younger than myself. When they >>chose this business it still looked like a decent trade and they will have a >>half a lifetime left to fill in with some other way of earning a living. >> >>Russ Hoyt >>Hoyt's TV >>Exeter, NH >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:42 PM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner >> >> >> >>>I'm sorry to butt in Rocky, >>>but I think your on the wrong "tech-assist" site >>>because that's what this site is all about "tech-assist" >>>helping other tech's >>>I for one and happy to share what information I have with another tech in >>>need. >>>I believe Bob feel's the same for he seem's to help most >>> >>>Robert >>>tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>H & H Electronics Inc >>>Dallas, TX >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: <htegd@xxxxxxx> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:29 PM >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Bob, >>>>Why can't these guys spend the money to get these schematics.. Factory >>>>authorized shops go to great expense to see that we have the literature >>>> >>>> >>to >> >> >>>be >>> >>> >>>>better than the competition. Whe help them so we loose the business. >>>> >>>> >>I'm >> >> >>>sure >>> >>> >>>>that there is a local authorized shop in his area that lost business >>>> >>>> >>>because of >>> >>> >>>>this. >>>> >>>>Let them buy their own! >>>> >>>>Rocky Montgomery, Pres. >>>>Hi-Tech Electronics, Inc. >>>>Lafayette, La. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>--- >>> >>> >>>>Lost Password: >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>>>Email Archives: >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>--- >> >> >>>Lost Password: >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>>Email Archives: >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >>> >>> >>> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Lost Password: >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >>Email Archives: >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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