[TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner
- From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:19:23 -0500
I have a 42" plasma in now that needs a new PDP, plasma display panel. It
cost more than the replacement cost of the set. Anyone need a boat anchor?
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Jim Myers
Since 1972
Telrad Electronic Services Co.
Fort Wayne, IN 46815
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner
Yes, but if you look at the history of this business, it took a serious drop
after the elimination of tubes in 74. Tubes accounted for 90% of our repair
work up to then.
The national average was 2 service calls a year for each color TV at that
time. Today the first breakdown averages at 5 years old. That right there
makes that 90% number look right on the mark.
So now there is only 10% of the repair work we had in 74.
Now, when that TV breaks down at 5 years old, if 50% of the owners say it's
too old, I want a new one ---- we are down to 5% of the repair work there
was in 74.
However I suspect that with today's low replacement prices and constant
upgrades in features that may be closer to 90% who say, I want a new one.
That would leave us only 1% of the repair work we had in 74.
The first VCR I installed at a Ford dealership for Ford Motor Co. in 1972
(because we were a Philco dealer, Ford owned Philco, Henry the III or
whatever, decided his dealers were all going to have VCRs for sales and
mechanic training) cost Henry $1600 from Sony. In ten years you could buy a
much better one for $200. Ten more years and they were hardly worth
repairing.
Everything new that has come along in the past 20 years has gone the same
way.
Sure you can probably keep on fixing things that require a high degree of
technical skills and constant training, for starvation wages, but I could
not honestly encourage a young person going into a technical field today to
chose consumer electronics.
As far as plasma goes, some of the others have already determined they are
building a $4000 TV that isn't worth repairing.
Until our standard of living has dropped so low it is nearly equal to that
in the places where these things are being built, we will always be at a
disadvantage when it comes to repairing their products.
Russ Hoyt
Hoyt's TV
Exeter, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:42 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner
> Won't the plasma, DLP, LCD, and LCOS technologies need to be repaired at
> some point I their life? I know they are more reliable, but they still
> must break down sometime and be repairable (I hope).
>
> Kevin Wilks
> Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> Penticton BC Canada
> kevintv@xxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hoyt's TV
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:17 AM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner
>
> Maybe Rocky has a large shop in a huge metropolitan service area, so
> buying
> one of every service manual ever printed is a viable option for him.
>
> I just emptied the contents of two large Philips ring binders, full of
> VCR
> manuals from the 80s, to make room for the parts book pages for my 78
> Chrysler survivor.
>
> As I looked at what I was throwing away, I was deeply saddened by the
> cost
> of it and the fact that I never used a single one of those VCR manuals.
> I
> still have about 20 feet of shelf space filled with more of those
> manuals
> from that time, on VCRs, Camcorders, TV's and Magnavox stereos and B&W
> TVs.
> Another six feet of Zenith folders. Along with 6 four drawer file
> cabinets
> full of Sams folders. A couple trays of Magnavox, Sylvania, Philco,
> micro
> fiche. For every foot of Sams folders I can see, on average, one that
> has
> been taken out of the file drawer.
>
> I no longer subscribe to any of them because I don't make enough money
> to
> pay for that stuff anymore. I now buy individual manuals as needed and
> add
> the cost to the customer's bill. If the customer wants to keep the
> manual, I
> mark it up 50% plus S&H, and sell it to him.
>
> I am happy to share what I do have with any other tech who needs it
> because
> I know what a loss this stuff is to most of us and the only way we can
> survive is to help each other.
>
> I think most of us realize we are seeing the end times of TV service as
> a
> viable independent business. A lot of us are old enough so it fits in
> reasonably well with our retirement plans although I would have
> preferred
> that the business still be strong so I could sell it to help finance my
> retirement. If we are lucky enough to have it work out right, we will
> use up
> all our TV parts at about the same time we have used up all our body
> parts.
>
> I feel bad for the guys who are 20 years younger than myself. When they
> chose this business it still looked like a decent trade and they will
> have a
> half a lifetime left to fill in with some other way of earning a living.
>
> Russ Hoyt
> Hoyt's TV
> Exeter, NH
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:42 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner
>
>
> > I'm sorry to butt in Rocky,
> > but I think your on the wrong "tech-assist" site
> > because that's what this site is all about "tech-assist"
> > helping other tech's
> > I for one and happy to share what information I have with another tech
> in
> > need.
> > I believe Bob feel's the same for he seem's to help most
> >
> > Robert
> > tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > H & H Electronics Inc
> > Dallas, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <htegd@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:29 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips model# 25ps72c part number for tuner
> >
> >
> > > Bob,
> > > Why can't these guys spend the money to get these schematics..
> Factory
> > > authorized shops go to great expense to see that we have the
> literature
> to
> > be
> > > better than the competition. Whe help them so we loose the
> business.
> I'm
> > sure
> > > that there is a local authorized shop in his area that lost business
> > because of
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Let them buy their own!
> > >
> > > Rocky Montgomery, Pres.
> > > Hi-Tech Electronics, Inc.
> > > Lafayette, La.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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