[TechAssist] Re: Guy outside the list is asking for a schematic
- From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:42:33 -0600
how about a secret code? I saw a message on MSN that my 16 year old was
writing in reply, a parent couldn't figure that out, its like short hand,
he said its teen coded and he could explain anything I had problems with..
( I trust this one so I just walked away) point is:: Maybe more of us
should start using abbreviated descriptions, I've been chewed on more than
once and probably lost some help because of my posts being hard to
understand , but the reason is plain, only a tech would or should
understand, like, reg, fbt, hot, crt, cap, res, most of the tips given
are very explicit, " change R1203, 100ohm 1/4 watt, Philips part#12345 and
C424 100mfd @ 250 volts Philips part# 67890" if it said,
ckr1203,100/.25,c424,100/250 the guy that mows your yard may have a little
trouble finding it and changing it, or describing it to parts house ? just
a thought , used to call caps- letic's, or ceramic's or mylars, resistors
on the board were cr's, for carbon or wr for wire wound, but you won't
find it in any new book or radio shack, mcm can cross mfg. parts and sell
to public for same price as us. Its not that big of deal but most anyone can
fix anything with a little research on the web. I do the same and so do
most of you, I just saved $600 on an antilock brake problem on my service
truck, got all the part numbers and how to fix it off the web, took less
than an hour, so I guess what goes around comes around.
BTW. there's a little money to be made repairing those brake modules for
GM's, will cost you about 12.00 and the dealers just replace the module with
the original OEM part, draws 20 amps, uses 25 amp scrs, won't last very
long, ( I think it was programmed to fail ) will fail again if ABS is
activated more than normal driving, like pulling trailer, hills etc.
replacing with a 100 amp scr will cure for good, and unit is on a 30 amp
fuse so no danger of over current draw. I fixed a couple since then for
125.00 each, with 6 month warranty, installation had to be done by certified
auto mechanic. can't beat em, join em.
brock
Brock Electronics
R.R.4 box 237
5208 cr.3385
Independence Ks. 67301
620-331-0235
fax 331-7191
markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Zenith*Philips*Peavey*Fender*Crate
we work on all brands,makes,models
of anything that plugs in the wall
----- Original Message -----
From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Guy outside the list is asking for a schematic
> Yes, this subject has been discussed and cussed
> before.
> But, apparently, there is nothing that can be done
> to keep our posts private.
> I get calls and e-mails every week from
> "civilians".
> We demamd a sig. file before we will help each
> other, but that is the thing that makes us
> vulnerable.
> I usually just kindly explain that I don't have the
> answer to their question, and to contact a repair
> person in their area.
> I try to be courteous, and even thank them for
> calling, I just don't give out any info.
> Walter
> --- markbrock <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yea, what Al said, but we are becoming our own
> > enemy, for instance I had
> > another guy who called me, his RCA set quit,
> > didn't want to pay someone to
> > do something he could to, cause he had a solder
> > gun ( I can imagine ) so he
> > put in the chassis number in yahoo and searched,
> > got techassist's free
> > list and the solution with part numbers from
> > myself and several others,
> > don't know who else he called but since my
> > signature file was at the bottom
> > with email, fax, phone, etc. he calls me and
> > wants to know where he can buy
> > the part I mentioned and put it in his set. I
> > wouldn't help him but sure
> > he's found someone that would, including parts
> > house, without much more
> > effort and certainly saved him some money,
> > probably mcm, they come up
> > when you search for electronics parts, and
> > will sell to anyone for same
> > price as us. All he wanted was an RCA part #
> > ______can't remember what it
> > was but it was the 1 meg resistor that opens off
> > the regulator, so mcm
> > probably sold him this part for about 3 bucks and
> > got another $8 for
> > shipping, so they made ten bucks, the guy is
> > happy, one of us could have
> > fixed it in five minutes and made $45.00 profit.
> > we're killin ourselves.
> > and now if someone searches today's archives they
> > will know how to fix there
> > own stuff.
> > brock
> > Brock Electronics
> > R.R.4 box 237
> > 5208 cr.3385
> > Independence Ks. 67301
> > 620-331-0235
> > fax 331-7191
> >
> > markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Zenith*Philips*Peavey*Fender*Crate
> > we work on all brands,makes,models
> > of anything that plugs in the wall
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:56 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Guy outside the list is
> > asking for a schematic
> >
> >
> > > I agree whole-heartedly with Als' comments.
> > >
> > > Doug Keller
> > > Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > 101 Freeland Ave.
> > > Terra Alta, WV
> > > USA 26764
> > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> > > won't live long enough to make them all
> > yourself"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Al L wrote:
> > >
> > > >I want a sig file before I will help,and I
> > don't help the locals,they
> > don't
> > > >help me, always been that way.When a young
> > tech(part time) comes to me
> > for
> > > >parts(I never have em in stock) I ALWAYS give
> > him a difficult source,far
> > > >away.I also don't hire local "techs" with
> > known part time
> > businesses,don't
> > > >train techs,all because of training my
> > competition.I recently let a good
> > > >tech go ,evenn though i could use him, because
> > he was dong more and more
> > > >work for "friends and relatives" and less
> > available to me.
> > > > IF YOU HELP AND TRAIN NEW COMPETITION,BE
> > PREPARED TO GET SCREWED!!
> > > > As for groups like ours, they should be
> > PRIVATE! That lawyer knows
> > very
> > > >well his work could be done easily if some one
> > told us how to fill out
> > the
> > > >court papers,but HE is smart enough to support
> > laws against that!
> > > > Lets help each other, and any techs that
> > will help us,PROVIDED they
> > > >charge the gouing rate.NO help for people that
> > say we are crooks and
> > charge
> > > >too much,because we have to make a living.
> > > >
> > > >Al Leatherman
> > > >224 RT. 46
> > > >Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > > >973-361-5796
> > > >WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:01 AM
> > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Guy outside the list
> > is asking for a schematic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>I'm all for helping a guy out, but don't
> > like the idea that more and
> > more
> > > >>home techs are being born because of the
> > information on the Internet,.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >My
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>lawyer friend mentioned that he had a
> > Philips set that the pix kept
> > going
> > > >>crazy on him, he did a search on the
> > Internet, and it gave him a past
> > > >>history post from one of these repair groups,
> > told what part to change,
> > > >>gave him value, even the name and address of
> > tech who posted the
> > solution,
> > > >>he got the part from Radio Shack, he fixed
> > his set for less than $5,
> > I
> > > >>can see that he'll never need my services
> > again, or if he does it will
> > be
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >a
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>dog set, yea, he clears 100K per year and
> > I'm scraping like the rest,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >not
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>near a good of friend as he was. anyone else
> > finding out that more and
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >more
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>non-techs are getting in the back of there
> > sets ? maybe I'm just
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >paranoid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>? or jealous, to answer your question, If
> > he was within a service
> > call
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >of
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>my shop I'd be skeptical about training any
> > competition, just my vent
> > for
> > > >>the day.
> > > >>brock
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:57 AM
> > > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Guy outside the list is
> > asking for a schematic
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>I got an email from a guy outside the list
> > who is asking for a
> > > >>>schematic. He said he found me on a Google
> > search and that he works at
> > a
> > > >>>non profit computer recycling centre where
> > he also gets stuff like
> > > >>>stereo receivers. Is there any problem
> > sharing the schematic with him
> > > >>>(copyright comes to mind- anything else?)
> > > >>>--
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Gary McCartney
> > > >>>
> > > >>>McCartney Electronics
> > > >>>Guelph Ontario Canada
> > > >>>Est. 1984
> > > >>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
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