Yes, this subject has been discussed and cussed before. But, apparently, there is nothing that can be done to keep our posts private. I get calls and e-mails every week from "civilians". We demamd a sig. file before we will help each other, but that is the thing that makes us vulnerable. I usually just kindly explain that I don't have the answer to their question, and to contact a repair person in their area. I try to be courteous, and even thank them for calling, I just don't give out any info. Walter --- markbrock <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yea, what Al said, but we are becoming our own > enemy, for instance I had > another guy who called me, his RCA set quit, > didn't want to pay someone to > do something he could to, cause he had a solder > gun ( I can imagine ) so he > put in the chassis number in yahoo and searched, > got techassist's free > list and the solution with part numbers from > myself and several others, > don't know who else he called but since my > signature file was at the bottom > with email, fax, phone, etc. he calls me and > wants to know where he can buy > the part I mentioned and put it in his set. I > wouldn't help him but sure > he's found someone that would, including parts > house, without much more > effort and certainly saved him some money, > probably mcm, they come up > when you search for electronics parts, and > will sell to anyone for same > price as us. All he wanted was an RCA part # > ______can't remember what it > was but it was the 1 meg resistor that opens off > the regulator, so mcm > probably sold him this part for about 3 bucks and > got another $8 for > shipping, so they made ten bucks, the guy is > happy, one of us could have > fixed it in five minutes and made $45.00 profit. > we're killin ourselves. > and now if someone searches today's archives they > will know how to fix there > own stuff. > brock > Brock Electronics > R.R.4 box 237 > 5208 cr.3385 > Independence Ks. 67301 > 620-331-0235 > fax 331-7191 > > markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Zenith*Philips*Peavey*Fender*Crate > we work on all brands,makes,models > of anything that plugs in the wall > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:56 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Guy outside the list is > asking for a schematic > > > > I agree whole-heartedly with Als' comments. > > > > Doug Keller > > Wis-Kel Electronics > > 101 Freeland Ave. > > Terra Alta, WV > > USA 26764 > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.tech-assist.org > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > won't live long enough to make them all > yourself" > > > > > > > > > > > > Al L wrote: > > > > >I want a sig file before I will help,and I > don't help the locals,they > don't > > >help me, always been that way.When a young > tech(part time) comes to me > for > > >parts(I never have em in stock) I ALWAYS give > him a difficult source,far > > >away.I also don't hire local "techs" with > known part time > businesses,don't > > >train techs,all because of training my > competition.I recently let a good > > >tech go ,evenn though i could use him, because > he was dong more and more > > >work for "friends and relatives" and less > available to me. > > > IF YOU HELP AND TRAIN NEW COMPETITION,BE > PREPARED TO GET SCREWED!! > > > As for groups like ours, they should be > PRIVATE! That lawyer knows > very > > >well his work could be done easily if some one > told us how to fill out > the > > >court papers,but HE is smart enough to support > laws against that! > > > Lets help each other, and any techs that > will help us,PROVIDED they > > >charge the gouing rate.NO help for people that > say we are crooks and > charge > > >too much,because we have to make a living. > > > > > >Al Leatherman > > >224 RT. 46 > > >Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > > >973-361-5796 > > >WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:01 AM > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Guy outside the list > is asking for a schematic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I'm all for helping a guy out, but don't > like the idea that more and > more > > >>home techs are being born because of the > information on the Internet,. > > >> > > >> > > >My > > > > > > > > >>lawyer friend mentioned that he had a > Philips set that the pix kept > going > > >>crazy on him, he did a search on the > Internet, and it gave him a past > > >>history post from one of these repair groups, > told what part to change, > > >>gave him value, even the name and address of > tech who posted the > solution, > > >>he got the part from Radio Shack, he fixed > his set for less than $5, > I > > >>can see that he'll never need my services > again, or if he does it will > be > > >> > > >> > > >a > > > > > > > > >>dog set, yea, he clears 100K per year and > I'm scraping like the rest, > > >> > > >> > > >not > > > > > > > > >>near a good of friend as he was. anyone else > finding out that more and > > >> > > >> > > >more > > > > > > > > >>non-techs are getting in the back of there > sets ? maybe I'm just > > >> > > >> > > >paranoid > > > > > > > > >>? or jealous, to answer your question, If > he was within a service > call > > >> > > >> > > >of > > > > > > > > >>my shop I'd be skeptical about training any > competition, just my vent > for > > >>the day. > > >>brock > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:57 AM > > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Guy outside the list is > asking for a schematic > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>I got an email from a guy outside the list > who is asking for a > > >>>schematic. He said he found me on a Google > search and that he works at > a > > >>>non profit computer recycling centre where > he also gets stuff like > > >>>stereo receivers. Is there any problem > sharing the schematic with him > > >>>(copyright comes to mind- anything else?) > > >>>-- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Gary McCartney > > >>> > > >>>McCartney Electronics > > >>>Guelph Ontario Canada > > >>>Est. 1984 > > >>>email: gary (at) number63.ca > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>--- > > >> > > >> > > >>>Lost Password: > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select > "Login Problems?". > > >>>Email Archives: > > > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >--- > > > > > > > > >>Lost Password: > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > Problems?". > > >>Email Archives: > > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >Lost Password: > > >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > Problems?". > > >Email Archives: > > >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ===== Walter Wood Future Tech Home Center 2786 Hwy. 43 N. 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