[TCUG] Re: Vibrating tactile plates
- From: "Smith, Julian" <Julian.Smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:10:42 -0000
Graham,
You may be referring to the PRISMA TEKNIK units often found in Ireland.
These were expensive when I used to tender but very nice. Non UK approved at
that time but very well thought out with many options available.
Julian Smith
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Subject: [TCUG] Re: Vibrating tactile plates
Tony,
Yes I was referring to tactile plates. I was simplifying the case for
brevity but my client, the Highways Agency, after consultation with local
sight concern wasn't happy with just tactile cones on a staggered crossing
and has tasked me to find something else (apart from bleep and sweep) that
could supplement / replace them. Sight concern were / are quite happy with
the tactiles, its one particular person who isn't.
Two things of interest came out of the meeting firstly that the main
complaint from sight concern was a lack of consistency of layouts / designs
across the area and secondly that they would find it helpful if the area
between studs had a strong contrast with rest of the carriageway, say
yellow anti skid for instance.
Fortunately as I work on behalf of the HA we appear to be exempt from the
vagaries of BV 165.
Regards
Graham Bristo
Senior Traffic Signal Engineer
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Graham,
New one on me!
Are you referring to a plate on the P/B or in the tactile paving?
At the risk of sounding to belligerent your client would be who? (the LA
in which case they should 'know better' or a third party who will want
the site adopted?)
What is the objection to the use of tactile cones ? Is it a maintenance
issue (we have sought to get around this with 'brushless' BIC tactiles
which 'if' a failure occurs still vibrate)
Has the idea of moving away from tactiles been cleared with the local
visually impaired group(s)and how will the 'non-standard' nature of this
site be communicated to such visually impaired users (we still have
trouble telling people about tactile cones although its not as bad as
when we first installed-15 years ago!)
And last but by no means least (and excuse me mentioning this one ) How
the H are you going to convince the audit commission that that site
passes??
Tony
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Subject: [TCUG] Vibrating tactile plates
I've just been asked to look into providing these as my client doesn't
like the idea of cones. I have a vague memory that in the early days of
Puffin crossing these were trailed but I haven't heard of their use
since.
Can anyone shed any light on current providers please ?
Regards
Graham Bristo
Senior Traffic Signal Engineer
HA area 8
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