[TCUG] Re: Vibrating tactile plates
- From: "Tony Sharp" <Tony.Sharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:20:42 -0000
Thanks for the clarification on this one Graham
Bit of an oversight 'excluding' HA from 165 don't 'we' think?=20
'If' we continue with BV 165 (and its by no means assured it will
'disappear') I think we should lobby for HA to be included ;o} (perhaps
if the HA were subject to the same 'rigor' as the LA's have been over
165 we would have had a bit more 'clarity' on the matter by now??)
Obviously any contrast would in addition to contrasting with the
carriageway also have to contrast with the tactile paving (and yes I
have seen sites where RED HFS has been put in leading to very little
definition between tactiles and the crossing!)=20
If a 'tactile plate' was installed anyone any idea over what spec it
would fall under?
Tony
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Tony,
Yes I was referring to tactile plates. I was simplifying the case for
brevity but my client, the Highways Agency, after consultation with
local sight concern wasn't happy with just tactile cones on a staggered
crossing and has tasked me to find something else (apart from bleep and
sweep) that could supplement / replace them. Sight concern were / are
quite happy with the tactiles, its one particular person who isn't.
Two things of interest came out of the meeting firstly that the main
complaint from sight concern was a lack of consistency of layouts /
designs across the area and secondly that they would find it helpful if
the area between studs had a strong contrast with rest of the
carriageway, say yellow anti skid for instance.
Fortunately as I work on behalf of the HA we appear to be exempt from
the vagaries of BV 165.
Regards
Graham Bristo
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Graham,
New one on me!
Are you referring to a plate on the P/B or in the tactile paving?
At the risk of sounding to belligerent your client would be who? (the LA
in which case they should 'know better' or a third party who will want
the site adopted?) What is the objection to the use of tactile cones ?
Is it a maintenance issue (we have sought to get around this with
'brushless' BIC tactiles which 'if' a failure occurs still vibrate) Has
the idea of moving away from tactiles been cleared with the local
visually impaired group(s)and how will the 'non-standard' nature of this
site be communicated to such visually impaired users (we still have
trouble telling people about tactile cones although its not as bad as
when we first installed-15 years ago!) And last but by no means least
(and excuse me mentioning this one ) How the H are you going to convince
the audit commission that that site passes??
Tony
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Subject: [TCUG] Vibrating tactile plates
I've just been asked to look into providing these as my client doesn't
like the idea of cones. I have a vague memory that in the early days of
Puffin crossing these were trailed but I haven't heard of their use
since.
Can anyone shed any light on current providers please ?
Regards
Graham Bristo
Senior Traffic Signal Engineer
HA area 8
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