Graham, New one on me! Are you referring to a plate on the P/B or in the tactile paving? At the risk of sounding to belligerent your client would be who? (the LA in which case they should 'know better' or a third party who will want the site adopted?) What is the objection to the use of tactile cones ? Is it a maintenance issue (we have sought to get around this with 'brushless' BIC tactiles which 'if' a failure occurs still vibrate) Has the idea of moving away from tactiles been cleared with the local visually impaired group(s)and how will the 'non-standard' nature of this site be communicated to such visually impaired users (we still have trouble telling people about tactile cones although its not as bad as when we first installed-15 years ago!) And last but by no means least (and excuse me mentioning this one ) How the H are you going to convince the audit commission that that site passes?? Tony Anthony Sharp=20 Engineer (Traffic Signals)=20 Highways South Gloucestershire Council=20 Broad lane, Yate BS37 7PN=20 Tel: (01454) 86 3605=20 Fax: (01454) 86 3757=20 Find out more about the work of the Highways Section at: www.southglos.gov.uk/highways =20 -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham_Bristo@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 28 November 2007 14:43 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Vibrating tactile plates I've just been asked to look into providing these as my client doesn't like the idea of cones. I have a vague memory that in the early days of Puffin crossing these were trailed but I haven't heard of their use since. Can anyone shed any light on current providers please ? Regards Graham Bristo Senior Traffic Signal Engineer HA area 8 ///carillion-URS One team leading the way in quality, innovative and best value provision of highway services T 01234 349641 (switchboard) T 01234 373641 (direct) F 01234 216268 Working on behalf of the Highways Agency to deliver Safe Roads, Reliable Journeys and Informed Travellers. e-mail address: graham.bristo@xxxxxxxxxxx This email transmission is confidential and intended for the addressee only. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the person or organisation to whom it is addressed, you must not copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance upon it. If you have received this in error, please notify the Postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and return it. Carillion-URS is a joint venture company of: Carillion Highway Maintenance Limited. Registered in England No. 3198709 Registered Office, Birch Street, Wolverhampton WV1 4HY and URS Corporation Limited. Registered in Scotland No. 118271 Registered Office, 243 West George Street, Glasgow G2 4QE ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from South Gloucestershire Council are confidential and intended=20 solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error=20 please notify the South Gloucestershire Council=20 Postmaster at the address below. This footnote also confirms that this email message has=20 been swept for the presence of computer viruses. postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ********************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug