[tcb] Re: Painting tips?
- From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:08:55 -0500
Thanks for all of the advice I will follow a bunch of it. I will do my
bestest, but remember I am not building a show vehicle, I am building a go
vehicle and not just a go vehicle but a rough and tumble beast that can take a
licking. (But I don't want peeling paint or drips or rust finding its way
through.).
On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "thingmon@xxxxxxxxx" <thingmon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> San Jac has a class on painting that a few of the folks here in Houston have
> taken. They were able take their vehicles into the shop and use the school's
> equipment.
>
> There may be a community college over your way that has a similar class.
>
>
> From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Painting tips?
> Sent: Sun, Jul 21, 2013 2:52:16 PM
>
> What others have said already. Lots of good info on the web. The Samba has
> a thread on paint & body work. Prep is super important. One thing I would
> suggest: I found a primer a few years back on the recommendation of a very
> good paint & body man. It is Transtar. It is an epoxy primer which can be
> shot directly on bare metal and does not need to be sealed before you shoot
> the color. It is a heavy fill primer. It costs about $100 per gallon with
> hardner and can be obtained at O'Reily's or most any auto paint supplier.
> Primer with it and block sand; shoot some more and block sand. Continue to
> you get a smooth body to shoot. I have painted three split busses. Have
> found that an easy way to do it is to shoot a section at a time, not try to
> shoot the entire vehicle all at once. For example: prep, primer, block sand,
> then shoot the top as one project. It is easy to mask off the entire vehicle
> except for the top, complete the top, then mask off the top and shoot another
> section, like the top of the bed. Use acrylic urethane paint. I use PPG
> concept single stage (i.e. no clear coat) It is super easy to work with but
> with hardener, reducer and color it is expensive. To paint your DC will
> probably take a gallon + another quart. You need three guns: a cheapo
> ($100) to shoot primer; an expensive one ($200 and up, friend in the paint
> business guns costs $800) to shoot color, and a detail gun (small to shoot
> small and tight areas, about $150).
>
> Total cost for paint & materials to do a correct job on a bus approaches
> $1,000 and this does not include compressor and guns.
>
> Water is your enemy. You need line filters for your air before it reaches
> your gun.
>
> After shooting color on a section of your bus you need to color sand and
> buff. If you use acrylic urethane paint (which you should) you can do the
> color sanding and buffing within a short period of time after shooting the
> paint. Overnight drying is fine and I have sanded out problem areas within a
> couple of hours after shooting the color, acrylic urethane dries very fast.
> The color sanding and buffing is the real secret of a smooth and slick paint
> job. Wet sand in one direction with 2,000 grit paper then wet sand in a 90
> degree direction with 3,000 grit, then put the buffer on it with a course
> compound working down a couple of stages to a fine compound. It takes about
> 40 hours of labor to color sand a bus.
>
> After finishing you will be well versed in why paint & body shops charge so
> much for a good paint job.
>
> To experiment with your abilities start with a small piece of the bus; like
> the engine deck lid and see what you can do from prep, primer, color, color
> sanding & buffing.
>
> Watch the videos on how to shoot and read the info on the Samba threads.
>
> Beyond that: Call or e-mail if you have problems. Chucks pretty good,
> Duncan painted Freedom, and I have painted a few VWs. Also, your friendly
> local auto paint supplier is a good source of information. If you have an
> English Color dealer in Austin they are a PPG dealer and can give you some
> real good advice.
>
> From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:53 PM
> Subject: [tcb] Painting tips?
>
> I am getting closer to the magical painting time for Sonne. I must admit
> that I am a bit worried. I have never used a spray gun before.
>
> Do any of you seasoned pros have any tips you can share with me so that I am
> prepared? It would be very appreciated!
>
> And a big thank you to Sammie and Noralynn for helping me find my beloved
> stripper. Sammie, I could not find the thinner reddish brown ones at the
> different Lowes that I tried. They only had the thick black ones. But
> Noralynn found them at Walmart and I bought all of them.
>
> In case anybody cares for the future they are made by 3M. The label says:
> Scotch-Brite Paint & Varnish Remover Contour Surface. They are 5" and go on
> a drill.
>
> Julie
>
>
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