[tcb] Re: Painting tips?
- From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:03:27 -0500
But there is something about doing it myself. I wish I didn't have to have a
metal guy. I wish I could do it all and had all the time needed. Sonne will
be flawed and many folks won't like her a bit but I will be proud and she will
be like no other.
On Jul 21, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Ronnie Hughes <fracdogii@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Also, if you have the body prepared, the windows and trim off, MAACO charges
> $350 for a single color. They don't do a good job of prepping, but they have
> all the right tools, booth, etc. to good a good quality paint job down for
> about $200 more than the paint will cost you.
>
>
> From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 1:49 PM
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Painting tips?
>
> There is a complicated answer to your question Abe, so I will refrain from
> answering. And what I am doing now is only part of a master plan. It may
> end up genius or a horrible disaster but it will be my own doing and it will
> be a work in progress for at least a year.
>
> And to the person who wondered if I will bedazzle my DC with plastic gems or
> cover it in alfalfa, trust me, those things will not be happening. That
> would be ridiculous.
>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:28 PM, abe schlichting <gogretago@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> are you going with a normal gloss look, or matte, or flat? the sheen will
>> bring out the flaws, IOW it would be much easier to make a matte paint look
>> good, but mattes can show overspray really bad, and you can't polish it out
>> without getting a shinny spot...
>>
>>
>> From: "thingmon@xxxxxxxxx" <thingmon@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:19 PM
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Painting tips?
>>
>> There's always the Rustoleum roll on paint job:
>>
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Poor-Mans-Paint-Job-or...-How-to-paint-your-c/
>>
>> http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f7/roll-paint-job-beefstew-style-656003/
>>
>> There are lots of iterations of this on the web. Whether any are legit, I
>> don't know. But for a low budget project, it may be worth a shot.
>>
>> Otherwise, maybe Dupont Imron may be an option?
>>
>> From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:08 PM
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Painting tips?
>>
>> Thanks for all of the advice I will follow a bunch of it. I will do my
>> bestest, but remember I am not building a show vehicle, I am building a go
>> vehicle and not just a go vehicle but a rough and tumble beast that can take
>> a licking. (But I don't want peeling paint or drips or rust finding its way
>> through.).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "thingmon@xxxxxxxxx" <thingmon@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> San Jac has a class on painting that a few of the folks here in Houston
>>> have taken. They were able take their vehicles into the shop and use the
>>> school's equipment.
>>> There may be a community college over your way that has a similar class.
>>>
>>> From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Painting tips?
>>> Sent: Sun, Jul 21, 2013 2:52:16 PM
>>>
>>> What others have said already. Lots of good info on the web. The Samba
>>> has a thread on paint & body work. Prep is super important. One thing I
>>> would suggest: I found a primer a few years back on the recommendation of
>>> a very good paint & body man. It is Transtar. It is an epoxy primer which
>>> can be shot directly on bare metal and does not need to be sealed before
>>> you shoot the color. It is a heavy fill primer. It costs about $100 per
>>> gallon with hardner and can be obtained at O'Reily's or most any auto paint
>>> supplier. Primer with it and block sand; shoot some more and block sand.
>>> Continue to you get a smooth body to shoot. I have painted three split
>>> busses. Have found that an easy way to do it is to shoot a section at a
>>> time, not try to shoot the entire vehicle all at once. For example: prep,
>>> primer, block sand, then shoot the top as one project. It is easy to mask
>>> off the entire vehicle except for the top, complete the top, then mask off
>>> the top and shoot another section, like the top of the bed. Use acrylic
>>> urethane paint. I use PPG concept single stage (i.e. no clear coat) It is
>>> super easy to work with but with hardener, reducer and color it is
>>> expensive. To paint your DC will probably take a gallon + another quart.
>>> You need three guns: a cheapo ($100) to shoot primer; an expensive one
>>> ($200 and up, friend in the paint business guns costs $800) to shoot color,
>>> and a detail gun (small to shoot small and tight areas, about $150).
>>>
>>> Total cost for paint & materials to do a correct job on a bus approaches
>>> $1,000 and this does not include compressor and guns.
>>>
>>> Water is your enemy. You need line filters for your air before it reaches
>>> your gun.
>>>
>>> After shooting color on a section of your bus you need to color sand and
>>> buff. If you use acrylic urethane paint (which you should) you can do the
>>> color sanding and buffing within a short period of time after shooting the
>>> paint. Overnight drying is fine and I have sanded out problem areas within
>>> a couple of hours after shooting the color, acrylic urethane dries very
>>> fast. The color sanding and buffing is the real secret of a smooth and
>>> slick paint job. Wet sand in one direction with 2,000 grit paper then wet
>>> sand in a 90 degree direction with 3,000 grit, then put the buffer on it
>>> with a course compound working down a couple of stages to a fine compound.
>>> It takes about 40 hours of labor to color sand a bus.
>>>
>>> After finishing you will be well versed in why paint & body shops charge so
>>> much for a good paint job.
>>>
>>> To experiment with your abilities start with a small piece of the bus; like
>>> the engine deck lid and see what you can do from prep, primer, color, color
>>> sanding & buffing.
>>>
>>> Watch the videos on how to shoot and read the info on the Samba threads.
>>>
>>> Beyond that: Call or e-mail if you have problems. Chucks pretty good,
>>> Duncan painted Freedom, and I have painted a few VWs. Also, your friendly
>>> local auto paint supplier is a good source of information. If you have an
>>> English Color dealer in Austin they are a PPG dealer and can give you some
>>> real good advice.
>>>
>>> From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:53 PM
>>> Subject: [tcb] Painting tips?
>>>
>>> I am getting closer to the magical painting time for Sonne. I must admit
>>> that I am a bit worried. I have never used a spray gun before.
>>>
>>> Do any of you seasoned pros have any tips you can share with me so that I
>>> am prepared? It would be very appreciated!
>>>
>>> And a big thank you to Sammie and Noralynn for helping me find my beloved
>>> stripper. Sammie, I could not find the thinner reddish brown ones at the
>>> different Lowes that I tried. They only had the thick black ones. But
>>> Noralynn found them at Walmart and I bought all of them.
>>>
>>> In case anybody cares for the future they are made by 3M. The label says:
>>> Scotch-Brite Paint & Varnish Remover Contour Surface. They are 5" and go
>>> on a drill.
>>>
>>> Julie
>
>
Other related posts:
