It ain't so. Go experiment. --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Can a collision move the engine? To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 7:31 AM #yiv775220193 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv775220193 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} i would think it could move the motor...15mph is fast when you hit a stationary object From: coocoo@xxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Can a collision move the engine? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:48:42 -0500 I have done absolutely zero work of maintenance on Murray's mechanicals since the tree kissing. When ever I did start him to move him a few yards while doing the body work, there was a banging noise that I thought was the tailpipe banging against the body metal. When Chuck and I were replacing the electronic points with real points, I noticed that the crank pulley nut was loose. It took a few turns. I also had to push the cooling tin away from the pulley. When I started the engine with Chuck looking at the engine we found that the pulley is way wobbly. There was no problem before the crash. I say that I was going, maybe, 15 MPH when I hit the tree, because I can't think that I was going much faster, maybe I was. The question is, would a front collision cause the engine to move forward, maybe 1/4-1/2 inch? How hard would I have to smack to cause the engine to go forward far enough to bend the pulley? Let's all make a wish that the crank wasn't damaged. I'll know tomorrow, maybe. See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. See Now