Must be Gremlins... no, that's AMC. Nevermind. --- On Tue, 10/14/08, mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Can a collision move the engine? To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:21 PM But how would the pulley get bent??? the engine would move as a complete assembly. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Will Wood <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> #yiv1511696787 {font-family:Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;} Yes. The torsion housing + weight of the transaxle + engine could have crumpled the front supports enough to move the entire rear assembly. -----Original Message----- From: Denis Dodson Sent: Oct 14, 2008 5:48 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Can a collision move the engine? I have done absolutely zero work of maintenance on Murray's mechanicals since the tree kissing. When ever I did start him to move him a few yards while doing the body work, there was a banging noise that I thought was the tailpipe banging against the body metal. When Chuck and I were replacing the electronic points with real points, I noticed that the crank pulley nut was loose. It took a few turns. I also had to push the cooling tin away from the pulley. When I started the engine with Chuck looking at the engine we found that the pulley is way wobbly. There was no problem before the crash. I say that I was going, maybe, 15 MPH when I hit the tree, because I can't think that I was going much faster, maybe I was. The question is, would a front collision cause the engine to move forward, maybe 1/4-1/2 inch? How hard would I have to smack to cause the engine to go forward far enough to bend the pulley? Let's all make a wish that the crank wasn't damaged. I'll know tomorrow, maybe.