Hi! I also use the IPhone, and IPod Touch, and yes, using voiceover is slower when making calls and texting, but the IPhone has the ability to dial a number, simply by pressing and holding the "home" button, after a beep, say the phone number normally digit by digit, IPhone dials the number. If I want to create a text message quickly, and I don't want to use the touch screen, I simply use Nuance dictation, which is available free from the app store.
All the best.----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:41 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 Saqib,I'm not disagreeing about the number of Apps which you can use on the iOS platform or Android one, what I'm saying is that to venture out of the secure, safe environment of Mobile accessibility, without a keyboard or track ball is difficult, provides a disjointed experience and is no where near as well polished as that with Talks or Mobile Speak.
Whether or not you feel the compromise is worth it or not, for the gain is your business of course...
The issue for me is how easy it is for the average user to navigate out of the closed MA environment verse not.
On 6 Oct 2011, at 17:31, Saqib Hussain wrote: I use Mobile Accessibility. So far the experience has been good. I agree that Symbian provided a much better experience when it came to productivity for basic tasks but unfortunately I and the others who jumped ship couldn't access other third party apps. I would like to use my phone for more than just making calls and sending texts. On 06/10/2011, Eleanor Burke <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A pdf reader, that sounds excellent indeed.I only wish Talks could do pdf reading. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56the point is that most of the time I don't actually care what the screen looks like. I do use my IPhone for the extra apps such as radio tuner, gps navigation, a useable twitter app and the pdf reader but for ordinary mobilephone work i still choose to carry a phone with a keypad as it is quickerfor making calls and texting. -----Original Message-----From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Darren Harris Sent: 06 October 2011 13:55 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 Hi,I have to admit I was very very dubious about a touch screen phone becausehow you use it compared to that of a normal phone as it were issignificantly different. But having got an iphone 4 and progressed with itI find whilst some things may be a little slower at times, ie texting although I'm much faster now I've put voiceover in touch typing mode instead of double tap each letter, I find now I have very little problem with the device. The main thing is that it teaches you to fully explore what's on the screen where as a screen reader like talks jaws or whatever screen reader on whatever platform you can think of jumps to each element for you. Whether it be a link or text. You don't get to have a true appreciation of what the screen really looks like or it's layout. This is the majour differences I think between a touch screen interface and that of a normal keyboard. -----Original Message-----From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 06 October 2011 08:16 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 Well Graham I think for a lot of blind people mobile phones with buttons are so important and this is where Talks is great. Not everyone wants a touch screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:01 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56It's not directly talks related, but what apple has demonstrated, unsurprisingly perhaps, is that building accessibility directly into operating systems is the way to go. As great and important a product as Talks was, it has always been fightinga battle to keep up with accessibility of new phones. This problem could still yet be the difficulty with adopting Android as a seriously accessible option. Apple is in fact being very aggressive indeed about patents and this could according to some even mean the end of android. so top marks to apple for showing us a far more sustainable model of accessibility thanother manufacturers but crushing all other competition through aggressivelegal action is not so good. Regards Graham -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 06 October 2011 07:39 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 Well I agree though I am not an iPhone user. It was sad and him so young. Let us on the Talks list not forget Torston Brand, another great man who did so much work for accessibility on mobile phones for blind people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "darren harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56Well it has to be said voice over really does rock on the I phone. he did do a good job in getting it out there that's for sure. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 06 October 2011 07:21 To: viphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; macvisionaries@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; mobileaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Talks Mailing List; talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; The Accessible Phones Discussion List Subject: [talks-uk] Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 Dear All, Many of you may already be aware of the sad news of Steve Jobs passing, for those of you who are not, sadly, Steve has lost his ongoing battle against cancer. May I personally say that whilst the work involving Voice Over may not per-say have been under his direct control and influence, I'm sure that his overriding philosophies, expectations and essence shall have played a part, and made their unique way into the product that many of us use today. A truly remarkable, visionary and pioneer has been lost to us all on this day. Rest in peace Steve... Steve Jobs 1955 - 2011 Kindly. Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
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