Hi. I have the HTC Cha Cha. It's a very good phone as I have the option to use a qwerty keypad. It's a shame that the new I-phone doesn't have a physical qwerty keypad built in to the hardware as I would then buy in to Apple. I gave up with Nokia as very few apps are accessible and I'm getting alot more out of my Android phone. If Apple was affordable to everyone then I would of opted for Apple as their platform is very stable. On 06/10/2011, Jackie Cairns <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Good grief no way would I want that, nor ever hint at it Eleanor. Button > phones have a place, but I don't know that Nokia and the other manufacturers > see it that way. Give me a button as opposed to a touch screen handset any > day. > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 06 October 2011 10:17 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 > > Fair point Jackie but let's not get rid of the button phones. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:58 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 > > >>I certainly think Apple's route is the right way to go regarding VoiceOver >> in all their products. I would like to see Nokia and Microsoft do >> likewise >> so that we can abolish expensive screen readers etc. >> >> And while I have loved and use Talks all the time, if Nokia were to build >> a >> similar screen reader like VoiceOver into all their handsets, we wouldn't >> have this issue of being so limited with what phones we can now buy. >> >> Just my thoughts, but those of a growing band actually. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Graham Page >> Sent: 06 October 2011 08:02 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 >> >> It's not directly talks related, but what apple has demonstrated, >> unsurprisingly perhaps, is that building accessibility directly into >> operating systems is the way to go. >> >> As great and important a product as Talks was, it has always been fighting > >> a >> battle to keep up with accessibility of new phones. This problem could >> still yet be the difficulty with adopting Android as a seriously >> accessible >> option. Apple is in fact being very aggressive indeed about patents and >> this could according to some even mean the end of android. so top marks >> to >> apple for showing us a far more sustainable model of accessibility than >> other manufacturers but crushing all other competition through aggressive >> legal action is not so good. >> >> Regards >> >> Graham >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: 06 October 2011 07:39 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 >> >> Well I agree though I am not an iPhone user. It was sad and him so young. >> Let us on the Talks list not forget Torston Brand, another great man who >> did >> >> so much work for accessibility on mobile phones for blind people. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "darren harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:31 AM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 >> >> >>> Well it has to be said voice over really does rock on the I phone. he did >>> do >>> a good job in getting it out there that's for sure. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >>> Sent: 06 October 2011 07:21 >>> To: viphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; macvisionaries@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; >>> mobileaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Talks Mailing List; >>> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; >>> The Accessible Phones Discussion List >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Many of you may already be aware of the sad news of Steve Jobs passing, >>> for >>> those of you who are not, sadly, Steve has lost his ongoing battle >>> against >>> cancer. >>> >>> May I personally say that whilst the work involving Voice Over may not >>> per-say have been under his direct control and influence, I'm sure that >>> his >>> overriding philosophies, expectations and essence shall have played a >>> part, >>> and made their unique way into the product that many of us use today. >>> >>> A truly remarkable, visionary and pioneer has been lost to us all on this >>> day. >>> >>> Rest in peace Steve... >>> >>> Steve Jobs 1955 - 2011 >>> >>> Kindly. >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>> e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- MSN Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx