[talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:37:05 +0100
Darren,
I agree with steve Jobs, but disagree with Torsten Brand, Torsten was someone
who touched each of our lives here on this list, and to say thank you, is a
respectful and right thing to do... Steve Jobs on the other hand, for all we
know hated accessibility, and couldn't have cared less, then again, it may only
be that Voice Over came to be because of him. Whatever the truth, I admired the
man myself, and am happy to have said my bit here, on this list.
Neil Barnfather.
On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:01, Darren harris wrote:
Oh yeah it is way over the top and not exactly sincere. No disrespect when I
say this but it's like when what's his name to do with talks died, unless
you know the man personally what's the point in leaving tribute? I mean wow
lets get millions of people together to send messages to Steve's family! It
is somewhat silly if you ask me and I think also quite invading to be honest
with you. but of course nobody from his family would really come out and say
that because it would make them look bad.
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On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 06 October 2011 15:53
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
there is also a strange and rather disturbing fan culture about apple which
leaves me generally puzzled. I understand that at some big apple stores at
least, a number of people have left flowers outside the shop. now if you
knew or had worked with Steve Jobbs this might be fine and ok but otherwise
it really is rather over the top. We are all I'm sure in agreement that
making accessibility part of the main stream product for which we do not pay
more than others is a refreshing and long overdue step that should point
the way for others. Most of us, however, have not met and know almost
nothing about Steve Jobbs and leaving flowers is probably over the top!
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On Behalf Of Darren Harris
Sent: 06 October 2011 13:50
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
This is true, but then again having said that I am fully in support of any
manufacturer that produces something that is 1 accessible and the same as
what other people would use and 2 doesn't charge for the accessibility tag.
Both points there are indeed big ones in my opinion.
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On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 06 October 2011 08:02
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
It's not directly talks related, but what apple has demonstrated,
unsurprisingly perhaps, is that building accessibility directly into
operating systems is the way to go.
As great and important a product as Talks was, it has always been fighting a
battle to keep up with accessibility of new phones. This problem could
still yet be the difficulty with adopting Android as a seriously accessible
option. Apple is in fact being very aggressive indeed about patents and
this could according to some even mean the end of android. so top marks to
apple for showing us a far more sustainable model of accessibility than
other manufacturers but crushing all other competition through aggressive
legal action is not so good.
Regards
Graham
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On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 06 October 2011 07:39
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
Well I agree though I am not an iPhone user. It was sad and him so young.
Let us on the Talks list not forget Torston Brand, another great man who did
so much work for accessibility on mobile phones for blind people.
----- Original Message -----
From: "darren harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
> Well it has to be said voice over really does rock on the I phone. he did
> do
> a good job in getting it out there that's for sure.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: 06 October 2011 07:21
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> mobileaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Talks Mailing List; talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
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> Subject: [talks-uk] Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
>
> Dear All,
>
> Many of you may already be aware of the sad news of Steve Jobs passing,
> for
> those of you who are not, sadly, Steve has lost his ongoing battle against
> cancer.
>
> May I personally say that whilst the work involving Voice Over may not
> per-say have been under his direct control and influence, I'm sure that
> his
> overriding philosophies, expectations and essence shall have played a
> part,
> and made their unique way into the product that many of us use today.
>
> A truly remarkable, visionary and pioneer has been lost to us all on this
> day.
>
> Rest in peace Steve...
>
> Steve Jobs 1955 - 2011
>
> Kindly.
> Neil Barnfather
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