Hi listers, Having praised Apple, I still think Talks and Mobile Speak are best for phones; who knows how things will change over time. Mike -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 06 October 2011 08:02 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 It's not directly talks related, but what apple has demonstrated, unsurprisingly perhaps, is that building accessibility directly into operating systems is the way to go. As great and important a product as Talks was, it has always been fighting a battle to keep up with accessibility of new phones. This problem could still yet be the difficulty with adopting Android as a seriously accessible option. Apple is in fact being very aggressive indeed about patents and this could according to some even mean the end of android. so top marks to apple for showing us a far more sustainable model of accessibility than other manufacturers but crushing all other competition through aggressive legal action is not so good. Regards Graham -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 06 October 2011 07:39 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 Well I agree though I am not an iPhone user. It was sad and him so young. Let us on the Talks list not forget Torston Brand, another great man who did so much work for accessibility on mobile phones for blind people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "darren harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 > Well it has to be said voice over really does rock on the I phone. he did > do > a good job in getting it out there that's for sure. > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: 06 October 2011 07:21 > To: viphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; macvisionaries@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > mobileaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Talks Mailing List; talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; > The Accessible Phones Discussion List > Subject: [talks-uk] Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56 > > Dear All, > > Many of you may already be aware of the sad news of Steve Jobs passing, > for > those of you who are not, sadly, Steve has lost his ongoing battle against > cancer. > > May I personally say that whilst the work involving Voice Over may not > per-say have been under his direct control and influence, I'm sure that > his > overriding philosophies, expectations and essence shall have played a > part, > and made their unique way into the product that many of us use today. > > A truly remarkable, visionary and pioneer has been lost to us all on this > day. > > Rest in peace Steve... > > Steve Jobs 1955 - 2011 > > Kindly. > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > > >