[talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56

  • From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:04:39 +0100

the point is that most of the time I don't actually care what the screen
looks like.  I do use my IPhone for the extra apps such as radio tuner, gps
navigation, a useable twitter app and the pdf reader but for ordinary mobile
phone work  i still choose to carry a phone with a keypad as it is quicker
for making calls and texting.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Darren Harris
Sent: 06 October 2011 13:55
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56

Hi,

I have to admit I was very very dubious about a touch screen phone because
how you use it compared to that of a normal phone as it were is
significantly different. But having got an iphone 4 and progressed with it I
find whilst some things may be a little slower at times, ie texting although
I'm much faster now I've put voiceover in touch typing mode instead of
double tap each letter, I find now I have very little problem with the
device.

The main thing is that it teaches you to fully explore what's on the screen
where as a screen reader like talks jaws or whatever screen reader on
whatever platform you can think of jumps to each element for you. Whether it
be a link or text. You don't get to have a true appreciation of what the
screen really looks like or it's layout. This is the majour differences I
think between a touch screen interface and that of a normal keyboard. 

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 06 October 2011 08:16
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56

Well Graham
I think for a lot of blind people mobile phones with buttons are so 
important and this is where Talks is great.  Not everyone wants a touch 
screen.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:01 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56


> It's not directly talks related, but what apple has demonstrated,
> unsurprisingly perhaps, is that building accessibility directly into
> operating systems is the way to go.
>
> As great and important a product as Talks was, it has always been fighting

> a
> battle to keep up with accessibility of new phones.  This problem could
> still yet be the difficulty with adopting Android as a seriously 
> accessible
> option.  Apple is in fact being very aggressive indeed about patents and
> this could according to some even mean the end of android.  so top marks 
> to
> apple for showing us a far more sustainable model of accessibility than
> other manufacturers but crushing all other competition through aggressive
> legal action is not so good.
>
> Regards
>
> Graham
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 06 October 2011 07:39
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
>
> Well I agree though I am not an iPhone user.  It was sad and him so young.
> Let us on the Talks list not forget Torston Brand, another great man who 
> did
>
> so much work for accessibility on mobile phones for blind people.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "darren harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:31 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
>
>
>> Well it has to be said voice over really does rock on the I phone. he did
>> do
>> a good job in getting it out there that's for sure.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: 06 October 2011 07:21
>> To: viphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; macvisionaries@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>> mobileaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Talks Mailing List; 
>> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>> The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Steve Jobs Passes Away Aged 56
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Many of you may already be aware of the sad news of Steve Jobs passing,
>> for
>> those of you who are not, sadly, Steve has lost his ongoing battle 
>> against
>> cancer.
>>
>> May I personally say that whilst the work involving Voice Over may not
>> per-say have been under his direct control and influence, I'm sure that
>> his
>> overriding philosophies, expectations and essence shall have played a
>> part,
>> and made their unique way into the product that many of us use today.
>>
>> A truly remarkable, visionary and pioneer has been lost to us all on this
>> day.
>>
>> Rest in peace Steve...
>>
>> Steve Jobs 1955 - 2011
>>
>> Kindly.
>> Neil Barnfather
>>
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>
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