Paul, The numeric of the model number bare no relevance to the specification of the device, the N82 is higher specked than the N95 just as an example. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks List Host TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility and Wayfinder Access dealer / distributor, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox why not use TalkNav today? http://www.talknav.com service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: 06 July 2009 09:48 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N95 versus N96 versus N85 I would say, keep the N95. I think you said you have the latest firmware. I am astounded that Vodafone have allowed the problems on the N96 to go on for so long. I am near the beginning of a 24 month contract with Vodafone with the N96 and I wish I had just kept my N95. Steve would be able to tell you more about the N85 but, best thing to do is find a review of it somewhere. From what I remember reading, it is a lesser phone anyway than the N95. The model numbers should give you some clues, 95 being higher than 85, even though the 85 is a newer phone, it would have some features missing I would think that are present on the 95. Cheers. Paul -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: 04 July 2009 20:21 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] N95 versus N96 versus N85 Hi folks. I was speaking to Voedafone today regarding my upgrade. As Steve mentioned last night I asked them about the N85 and the N86. They don't do the 86 but do the 85. What would you say about these handsets; which of them is the better option. Of course we are talking about talks here so even though a handset might be superior, in the balance when Talks is added into the equation, the most technically superior machine might not be the "best." The N96 is not very ergonomically good as a result of it's keypad being so flush. So the N95 and N85 would, or could be considered superior. If I discounted the N96 and opted to either keep my N95 or go for the N85 would I merely be swapping like for like? Is there any real difference between the N85 and the N95 apart from the N85 being a newer model? All of you who have an opinion and especially if you have had experience with any of these handsets your contribution would be welcomed. Walter.