[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:16:17 +0100
I understand it is available on Amazon Darren.
Eleanor
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From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Hi neil,
How it's not in the shop and what benefits does it have for the user?
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
TalkNav
Sent: 27 September 2009 11:10
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Eleanor,
That was Wayfinder Cities Guide, it is part of WF Access, you can still
get it.
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
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On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 25 September 2009 22:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
What I think is fantastic was something Paul Hopkins tld us about once
on
the list or maybe it was the WFA list. He had some programme (I do not
think
one can get it now) but it told him all sorts of things like the cafes
etc
around him. I'd have loved that. Paul seems to be abscent from the
list
these days.
Eleanor
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From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:23 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Because its voice in, voice out! There's no screen!
It does sound very cool actually, being an MP3 player, bluetooth
enabled
so it can be used as the GPS receiver for your mobile phone and
provides
stereo MP3 playback and looks like you can even use the headset to
make
calls as well if I'm reading this right. And it has a 4GB onboard
memory
as well for your MP3 files and map data. It also has an FM radio!
Wow!
On the other hand, because I can't find any real detailed stuff about
it,
I can't be sure how it handles points of interest etc etc. Or indeed
any
of those other advanced features. If all it does is give you A to B,
Left,
Right, continue strait for 2 miles stuff then you can use Maps for
that
much anyway.
Matt
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From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:10 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
'
I'd be intrigued to know how a blind person is supposed to use a
stand
alone satnav device designed for sighted people.
Cheers
Alex
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From: "Adrian" <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:54 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
The kapten is a hardware device not a bit of software, it is made by
a French company and has been available in france for about a year
but has just had a UK version produced as I understand it and goes
on sale in the next couple of weeks. As it has no screen it should
be reasonably accessible. It works with voice input and voice output
and although it can
be used in a car or on public transport it is intended mainly for
runners
and others sports so not apparently all that reliable when driving.
The product is actually called the Kapsys' Kapten. Note the
spellings
before
you start googling.
Adrian Higginbotham
E: Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Twitter: @AHiggi
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On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: 25 September 2009 21:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Hi, if you have links to this software that so many of us are going
out
and
buying I'd sure apreciate them because I just Googled that and nada!
Matt
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From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:39 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
It can be used by blind people? Can you give me more information on
this?
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 25 September 2009 20:35
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Very well said.
I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called
Kaptin, which is produced for sighted people but can be used by
visually impaired. Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is
cheaper than Wayfinder Access and I know many blind peole are going
out and purchasing this even as
I write!!!
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a
brilliant product but i think that now they have done the
breakthrough programming
they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump
in sales. Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for
free but they would
not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so
should be
paid
for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably
jump
at
owning it if it was priced more reasonably like
Talks/mobilespebk/WFA and that has got to be a large amount of
people around the world. also if they supported more phones sales
would increase which would help offset the reduction in price (and
it must work on more phones as text scout
does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done
all
this
excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out
of
the
reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is
danger
that
someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a
real
shame
after all the work they have done.
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm
This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it
were cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for
many reasons, most of which have been reiterated on this list
numerous times. It's a matter of judgement for each individual
whether their use would justify the price. If you don't like the
price, don't buy it. If you think you will get the use out of it,
then save up or buy it on a credit
card. And let's face it, even if the price were lowered many blind
people would still not buy it as I am afraid many today still
expect to
be given things for free.
Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs
Barbara Wilson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...
The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and
thousands of visually impaired people and even people with other
challenges making printed material inaccessable. But pricing it
like it is limits it to people such as a business person who
travels alot etc - that is not the big sales area for this surely?
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm
Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth
the price as you travel around alot independently and a tool of
this nature is a great assistance to your daily tasks and needs.
For me £300 would be the thresh hold before I would consider such a
purchase. I'm constantly intouch with sighted people through out
the day so I wouldn't be eager to pay the £650 for the product when
there are a set of eyes around to borrow most parts of the day. Now
I'm not suggesting for one minute that the price isn't right. I'm
just making the point that everyone has their own evaluation on the
product according to their circumstances. Someone else on this list
may well be in a position where
sighted help isn't always an option and they would gladly pay for
the
application. Perhaps I would if I was living alone.
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From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Darren,
KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't
want to
get into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the
cost of Kertzvil standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of
a phone which can go with you anywhere and read odd shaped
products it's well worth every penny.
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Darren Harris
Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well
to make it worth buying?
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Neil
K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be
called K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil
Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Jackie,
Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different
products?
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Steve
I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my
work N82 at the weekend for a comparison. I love the N86's chunky
feel, and the buttons are so much more tactile all round than the
N82. Often, customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the
N82, and the soft key positions. They shouldn't experience the
same issues with the N86 as the buttons are so nicely spaced out.
I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep
the phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it
through.
I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this
weekend.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound
Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton
Park Northampton NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Jackie,
The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera
is obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you
would see that it is miles faster than the N82.
It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as
nice as the N82, if not a bit wider.
An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than
the N82 in my experience.
The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which
helps
KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are
just being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because
TextScout is excellent on it.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Steve
So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you
think it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what
you have to say.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound
Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton
Park Northampton NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Matt,
No news yet. But I love my N86.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a
point
where
I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it
comes at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm
looking for! Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a
whole lot more powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97
is massivo!
Matt
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