[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:45:56 +0100
It is a French website.
Eleanor
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From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Yeah you can't get it on google at all.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: 25 September 2009 21:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Hi, if you have links to this software that so many of us are going out
and
buying I'd sure apreciate them because I just Googled that and nada!
Matt
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From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:39 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
It can be used by blind people? Can you give me more information on
this?
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 25 September 2009 20:35
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Very well said.
I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called
Kaptin, which is produced for sighted people but can be used by
visually impaired. Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is
cheaper than Wayfinder Access and I know many blind peole are going
out and purchasing this even as
I write!!!
Eleanor
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From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a
brilliant product but i think that now they have done the breakthrough
programming
they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump in
sales. Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for free
but they would
not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so should
be
paid
for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably jump
at
owning it if it was priced more reasonably like Talks/mobilespebk/WFA
and that has got to be a large amount of people around the world. also
if they supported more phones sales would increase which would help
offset the reduction in price (and it must work on more phones as text
scout
does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done all
this
excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out of
the
reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is
danger
that
someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a real
shame
after all the work they have done.
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm
This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it were
cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for many
reasons, most of which have been reiterated on this list numerous
times. It's a matter of judgement for each individual whether their
use would justify the price. If you don't like the price, don't buy
it. If you think you will get the use out of it, then save up or buy
it on a credit card. And let's face it, even if the price were lowered
many blind people would still not buy it as I am afraid many today
still expect to be given things for free.
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Barbara Wilson
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From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...
The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and thousands
of visually impaired people and even people with other challenges
making printed material inaccessable. But pricing it like it is limits
it to people such as a business person who travels alot etc - that is
not the big sales area for this surely?
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm
Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth the
price as you travel around alot independently and a tool of this
nature is a great assistance to your daily tasks and needs. For me
£300 would be the thresh hold before I would consider such a purchase.
I'm constantly intouch with sighted people through out the day so I
wouldn't be eager to pay the £650 for the product when there are a set
of eyes around to borrow most parts of the day. Now I'm not suggesting
for one minute that the price isn't right. I'm just making the point
that everyone has their own evaluation on the product according to
their circumstances. Someone else on this list may well be in a
position where sighted help isn't always an option and they would
gladly pay for the application. Perhaps I would if I was living alone.
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From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Darren,
KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't want
to
get into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the cost
of Kertzvil standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of a phone
which can go with you anywhere and read odd shaped products it's well
worth every penny.
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Darren Harris
Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well to
make it worth buying?
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Neil
K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be
called K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
TalkNav
Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Jackie,
Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different products?
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Steve
I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my work
N82 at the weekend for a comparison. I love the N86's chunky feel,
and the buttons are so much more tactile all round than the N82.
Often, customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the N82, and
the soft key positions. They shouldn't experience the same issues
with the N86 as the buttons are so nicely spaced out.
I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep the
phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it through.
I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this
weekend.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Jackie,
The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera is
obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you would
see that it is miles faster than the N82.
It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as
nice as the N82, if not a bit wider.
An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than the
N82 in my experience.
The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which
helps
KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are just
being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because TextScout
is excellent on it.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Steve
So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you
think it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you
have to say.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Matt,
No news yet. But I love my N86.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a
point
where
I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes
at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for!
Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more
powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!
Matt
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