I do not think so, amen't I writing to a Talks list. I will send to you off list in a minute.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news... Can you post some actual information here? -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 25 September 2009 21:00 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news... Sitalight navagation system. It is on Amazon for sale and Cobalt Systems are going to sell it. RNIB is interested in it. Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
hello what on earth is kaptin? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...Very well said. I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called Kaptin, which is produced for sighted people but can be used by visually impaired. Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is cheaper than Wayfinder Access and I know many blind peole are going out and purchasing this even as I write!!! Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news... I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a brilliant product but i think that now they have done the breakthrough programming they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump in sales. Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for free but they would not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so should
be
paid for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably jump
at
owning it if it was priced more reasonably like
Talks/mobilespebk/WFA
and that has got to be a large amount of people around the world. also if they supported more phones sales would increase which would
help
offset the reduction in price (and it must work on more phones as
text
scout does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done
all
this excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out
of
the reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is
danger
that someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a real shame after all the work they have done. -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news... From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it were cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for many reasons, most of which have been reiterated on this list numerous times. It's a matter of judgement for each individual whether their use would justify the price. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. If you think you
will
get the use out of it, then save up or buy it on a credit card. And let's
face it, even if the price were lowered many blind people would still not
buy
it as I am afraid many today still expect to be given things for free. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news... The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and thousands of visually impaired people and even people with other challenges making printed material inaccessable. But pricing it like it is limits it to people such as a business person who travels alot etc - that is not the big sales area for this surely? -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth the price as you travel around alot independently and a tool of this nature is
a
great assistance to your daily tasks and needs. For me £300 would be the
thresh
hold before I would consider such a purchase. I'm constantly intouch
with
sighted people through out the day so I wouldn't be eager to pay the
£650
for the product when there are a set of eyes around to borrow most
parts
of the day. Now I'm not suggesting for one minute that the price isn't right. I'm just making the point that everyone has their own evaluation on
the
product according to their circumstances. Someone else on this list
may
well be in a position where sighted help isn't always an option and they
would
gladly pay for the application. Perhaps I would if I was living
alone.
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...Darren, KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't want to get into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the cost of Kertzvil standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of a phone which can
go
with you anywhere and read odd shaped products it's well worth every
penny.
---Neil Barnfather TalkNav TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? www.talknav.com www.wayfinderaccess.com Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Harris Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well to make it worth buying? -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Neil K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be called K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Jackie, Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different products? ---Neil Barnfather TalkNav TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? www.talknav.com www.wayfinderaccess.com Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Steve I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my work
N82 at the weekend for a comparison. I love the N86's chunky feel, and the buttons are so much more tactile all round than the N82. Often, customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the N82, and
the soft key positions. They shouldn't experience the same issues with the N86 as the buttons are so nicely spaced out. I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep the phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it through. I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this weekend. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Jackie, The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera is obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you would
see that it is miles faster than the N82. It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as nice as the N82, if not a bit wider. An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than the N82 in my experience. The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which helps KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are just being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because TextScout is excellent on it. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Steve So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you think it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you
have to say. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Matt, No news yet. But I love my N86. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news... Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point where I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes
at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for! Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo! Matt __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4169 (20090619) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ____________________________________________________________________ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security
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