[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:34:41 +0100
Very well said.
I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called Kaptin,
which is produced for sighted people but can be used by visually impaired.
Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is cheaper than Wayfinder
Access and I know many blind peole are going out and purchasing this even as
I write!!!
Eleanor
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From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a brilliant
product but i think that now they have done the breakthrough programming
they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump in sales.
Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for free but they would
not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so should be paid
for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably jump at
owning it if it was priced more reasonably like Talks/mobilespebk/WFA and
that has got to be a large amount of people around the world.
also if they supported more phones sales would increase which would help
offset the reduction in price (and it must work on more phones as text scout
does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done all this
excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out of the
reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is danger that
someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a real shame
after all the work they have done.
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm
This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it were
cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for many reasons,
most of which have been reiterated on this list numerous times. It's a
matter of judgement for each individual whether their use would justify the
price. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. If you think you will get
the use out of it, then save up or buy it on a credit card. And let's face
it, even if the price were lowered many blind people would still not buy it
as I am afraid many today still expect to be given things for free.
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From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...
The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and thousands of
visually impaired people and even people with other challenges making
printed material inaccessable. But pricing it like it is limits it to people
such as a business person who travels alot etc - that is not the big sales
area for this surely?
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm
Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth the price
as you travel around alot independently and a tool of this nature is a great
assistance to your daily tasks and needs. For me £300 would be the thresh
hold before I would consider such a purchase. I'm constantly intouch with
sighted people through out the day so I wouldn't be eager to pay the £650
for the product when there are a set of eyes around to borrow most parts of
the day. Now I'm not suggesting for one minute that the price isn't right.
I'm just making the point that everyone has their own evaluation on the
product according to their circumstances. Someone else on this list may well
be in a position where sighted help isn't always an option and they would
gladly pay for the application. Perhaps I would if I was living alone.
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From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Darren,
KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't want to get
into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the cost of
Kertzvil
standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of a phone which can go
with
you anywhere and read odd shaped products it's well worth every penny.
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered
direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Darren Harris
Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well to
make it worth buying?
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Neil
K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be called
K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
TalkNav
Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Jackie,
Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different products?
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
www.talknav.com
www.wayfinderaccess.com
Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Steve
I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my work N82
at the weekend for a comparison. I love the N86's chunky feel, and the
buttons are so much more tactile all round than the N82. Often,
customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the N82, and the soft
key positions. They shouldn't experience the same issues with the N86
as the buttons are so nicely spaced out.
I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep the
phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it through.
I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this
weekend.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3
6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Jackie,
The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera is
obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you would see
that it is miles faster than the N82.
It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as nice
as the N82, if not a bit wider.
An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than the
N82 in my experience.
The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which helps
KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are just
being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because TextScout is
excellent on it.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Steve
So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you think
it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you have to
say.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3
6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Matt,
No news yet. But I love my N86.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point
where
I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes at
all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for! Apart
from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more powerful than
the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!
Matt
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