[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:41:10 +0100
Yeah you can't get it on google at all.
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: 25 September 2009 21:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
Hi, if you have links to this software that so many of us are going out
and
buying I'd sure apreciate them because I just Googled that and nada!
Matt
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From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:39 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
> It can be used by blind people? Can you give me more information on
> this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 25 September 2009 20:35
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>
>
> Very well said.
>
> I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called
> Kaptin, which is produced for sighted people but can be used by
> visually impaired. Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is
> cheaper than Wayfinder Access and I know many blind peole are going
> out and purchasing this even as
> I write!!!
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>
>
> I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a
> brilliant product but i think that now they have done the breakthrough
> programming
>
> they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump in
> sales. Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for free
> but they would
> not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so should
be
> paid
> for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably jump
at
>
> owning it if it was priced more reasonably like Talks/mobilespebk/WFA
> and that has got to be a large amount of people around the world. also
> if they supported more phones sales would increase which would help
> offset the reduction in price (and it must work on more phones as text
> scout
> does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done all
> this
> excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out of
> the
> reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is
danger
> that
> someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a real
> shame
> after all the work they have done.
> -original message-
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm
>
> This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it were
> cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for many
> reasons, most of which have been reiterated on this list numerous
> times. It's a matter of judgement for each individual whether their
> use would justify the price. If you don't like the price, don't buy
> it. If you think you will get the use out of it, then save up or buy
> it on a credit card. And let's face it, even if the price were lowered
> many blind people would still not buy it as I am afraid many today
> still expect to be given things for free.
>
>
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> Barbara Wilson
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...
>
>
> The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and thousands
> of visually impaired people and even people with other challenges
> making printed material inaccessable. But pricing it like it is limits
> it to people such as a business person who travels alot etc - that is
> not the big sales area for this surely?
>
> -original message-
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
> From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm
>
> Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth the
> price as you travel around alot independently and a tool of this
> nature is a great assistance to your daily tasks and needs. For me
> £300 would be the thresh hold before I would consider such a purchase.
> I'm constantly intouch with sighted people through out the day so I
> wouldn't be eager to pay the £650 for the product when there are a set
> of eyes around to borrow most parts of the day. Now I'm not suggesting
> for one minute that the price isn't right. I'm just making the point
> that everyone has their own evaluation on the product according to
> their circumstances. Someone else on this list may well be in a
> position where sighted help isn't always an option and they would
> gladly pay for the application. Perhaps I would if I was living alone.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>
>> Darren,
>>
>> KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't want
>> to
>
>> get into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the cost
>> of Kertzvil standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of a phone
>> which can go with you anywhere and read odd shaped products it's well
>> worth every penny.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---Neil Barnfather
>> TalkNav
>>
>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>
>> www.talknav.com
>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Darren Harris
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well to
>> make it worth buying?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>>
>> Hi Neil
>>
>> K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be
>> called K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding.
>>
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Braille Specialist
>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>> Welton House North Wing
>> Summerhouse Road
>> Moulton Park
>> Northampton
>> NN3 6WD
>> Tel: 01604 798024
>> Mob: 07887 883815
>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
>> TalkNav
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Jackie,
>>
>> Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different products?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---Neil Barnfather
>> TalkNav
>>
>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>
>> www.talknav.com
>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>> I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my work
>> N82 at the weekend for a comparison. I love the N86's chunky feel,
>> and the buttons are so much more tactile all round than the N82.
>> Often, customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the N82, and
>> the soft key positions. They shouldn't experience the same issues
>> with the N86 as the buttons are so nicely spaced out.
>>
>> I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep the
>> phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it through.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this
>> weekend.
>>
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Braille Specialist
>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>> NN3 6WD
>> Tel: 01604 798024
>> Mob: 07887 883815
>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>> The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera is
>> obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you would
>> see that it is miles faster than the N82.
>>
>> It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as
>> nice as the N82, if not a bit wider.
>>
>> An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than the
>> N82 in my experience.
>>
>> The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which
>> helps
>
>> KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are just
>> being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because TextScout
>> is excellent on it.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>> So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you
>> think it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you
>> have to say.
>>
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Braille Specialist
>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>> NN3 6WD
>> Tel: 01604 798024
>> Mob: 07887 883815
>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> No news yet. But I love my N86.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
>>
>> Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a
>> point
>
>> where
>>
>> I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
>> lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes
>> at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for!
>> Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more
>> powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!
>>
>> Matt
>>
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