[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
- From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:09:01 +0100
No I can't as I'm not engaging in this thread. Walter.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Yvonne Oliver
Sent: 26 September 2009 19:06
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
you could do that yourself
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
> Will Someone please change this subject line? Walter.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pauline Lawler
> Sent: 26 September 2009 18:26
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>
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> Here's a link for the Captain. Sounds promising.
>
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> www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhlM5pdUBAM
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> - ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:29 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>
>
>> Hi, if you have links to this software that so many of us are going out
>> and buying I'd sure apreciate them because I just Googled that and nada!
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:39 PM
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>
>>> It can be used by blind people? Can you give me more information on
>>> this?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 20:35
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>>
>>> Very well said.
>>>
>>> I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called Kaptin,
>>> which is produced for sighted people but can be used by visually
>>> impaired.
>>> Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is cheaper than Wayfinder
>>> Access and I know many blind peole are going out and purchasing this
>>> even as
>>> I write!!!
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a brilliant
>>> product but i think that now they have done the breakthrough programming
>>>
>>> they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump in
>>> sales.
>>> Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for free but they
>>> would
>>> not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so should be
>>> paid
>>> for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably jump at
>>>
>>> owning it if it was priced more reasonably like Talks/mobilespebk/WFA
>>> and
>>> that has got to be a large amount of people around the world. also if
>>> they supported more phones sales would increase which would help
>>> offset the reduction in price (and it must work on more phones as text
>>> scout
>>> does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done all
>>> this
>>> excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out of
>>> the
>>> reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is danger
>>> that
>>> someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a real
>>> shame
>>> after all the work they have done.
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm
>>>
>>> This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it were
>>> cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for many
>>> reasons, most of which have been reiterated on this list numerous times.
>>> It's a matter of judgement for each individual whether their use would
>>> justify the price. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. If you
>>> think you will get the use out of it, then save up or buy it on a credit
>>> card. And let's face it, even if the price were lowered many blind
>>> people would still not buy it as I am afraid many today still expect to
>>> be given things for free.
>>>
>>>
>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs
>>> Barbara Wilson
>>> M: 07917710779
>>> T: 02887784046
>>> E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype: creativeeyes
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>>
>>> The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and thousands of
>>> visually impaired people and even people with other challenges making
>>> printed material inaccessable. But pricing it like it is limits it to
>>> people such as a business person who travels alot etc - that is not the
>>> big sales area for this surely?
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>> From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm
>>>
>>> Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth the
>>> price as you travel around alot independently and a tool of this nature
>>> is a great assistance to your daily tasks and needs. For me £300 would
>>> be the thresh hold before I would consider such a purchase. I'm
>>> constantly intouch with sighted people through out the day so I wouldn't
>>> be eager to pay the £650 for the product when there are a set of eyes
>>> around to borrow most parts of the day. Now I'm not suggesting for one
>>> minute that the price isn't right. I'm just making the point that
>>> everyone has their own evaluation on the product according to their
>>> circumstances. Someone else on this list may well be in a position where
>>> sighted help isn't always an option and they would gladly pay for the
>>> application. Perhaps I would if I was living alone.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>>> Darren,
>>>>
>>>> KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't want to
>>>
>>>> get into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the cost
>>>> of Kertzvil standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of a phone
>>>> which can go with
>>>> you anywhere and read odd shaped products it's well worth every penny.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---Neil Barnfather
>>>> TalkNav
>>>>
>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>>>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>>>> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>>>
>>>> www.talknav.com
>>>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>>>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>>>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Darren Harris
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well to
>>>> make it worth buying?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Neil
>>>>
>>>> K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be
>>>> called K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>>>> Welton House North Wing
>>>> Summerhouse Road
>>>> Moulton Park
>>>> Northampton
>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
>>>> TalkNav
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Jackie,
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different products?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---Neil Barnfather
>>>> TalkNav
>>>>
>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>>>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>>>> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>>>
>>>> www.talknav.com
>>>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>>>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>>>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve
>>>>
>>>> I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my work
>>>> N82 at the weekend for a comparison. I love the N86's chunky feel,
>>>> and the buttons are so much more tactile all round than the N82.
>>>> Often, customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the N82, and
>>>> the soft key positions. They shouldn't experience the same issues
>>>> with the N86 as the buttons are so nicely spaced out.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep the
>>>> phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it through.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this
>>>> weekend.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>>>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jackie,
>>>>
>>>> The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera is
>>>> obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you would
>>>> see that it is miles faster than the N82.
>>>>
>>>> It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as
>>>> nice as the N82, if not a bit wider.
>>>>
>>>> An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than the
>>>> N82 in my experience.
>>>>
>>>> The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which helps
>>>
>>>> KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are just
>>>> being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because TextScout
>>>> is excellent on it.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve
>>>>
>>>> So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you
>>>> think it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you
>>>> have to say.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>>>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>
>>>> No news yet. But I love my N86.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
>>>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
>>>>
>>>> Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point
>>>
>>>> where
>>>>
>>>> I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
>>>> lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes
>>>> at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for!
>>>> Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more
>>>> powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
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