JS Disappointed in you. If there was no withholding which is directly related to paying estimated tax quarterly then at the end of the year there would be millions of citizens who couldn't pay zillions of dollars in taxes because they spent it, even smart citizens. Be practical, it aint going to stop spending money we dont have. Think, think, think. Comrade B In a message dated 4/8/2014 7:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes: RR Couldn't agree with you more about the government stealing the sheeple's money. And here is one reason why. Years ago I volunteered to do some polling for a Congressman that wanted to pass a bill outlawing withholding. The theory being that if every American had to actually write a check to pay his taxes, there would be an outcry. What I found was that the majority I spoke with said, and I quote, "Well, the government needs the money." That was enough bleating stupidity for me and I quit. But there it was, the sheeple don't have a clue - as long as they can have their MacDonalds, color tvs and of course now, their Obama phones. Wonder how they would do if they had to miss three meals. JS ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Police State America Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:13:13 -0400 (GMT-04:00) I was in Costa Rica when the insurance ran out on a car that is no longer in use. The reason I was fined is because I did not respond in time to a letter they sent me which I did not receive until a few days ago when I returned to the U.S.. I told them I was on a ship at sea and that's why I didn't receive the letter they sent me. Their response was that being at sea is no excuse. A responsible citizen would have had their mail forwarded to them or made other arrangements. What a bunch of assholes. All they want is your money. Governments must stay up at night dreaming up new laws and new ways to 'harvest' the citizenry. Don't you wonder why an average middle class Chinese earns $2,500/year and manages to survive but an American earning less than 6 times that amount cannot? It's because the U.S. Government steals their money in ways that most people do not even understand. -RR -----Original Message----- From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Apr 8, 2014 4:55 PM To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Police State America Call it a "Dingbat Penalty". Everyone has their stupid moment, hopefully this was your first and only. 73 DR On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Ron Ristad <_ristad@sprynet.com_ (mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: I returned the plates today and had to pay a $160 fine. -----Original Message----- From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." Sent: Apr 8, 2014 3:38 PM To: _sparkscoffee@freelists.org_ (mailto:sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Police State America Did you forget to cancel the registration and return the plates? Until the registration is canceled you have to pay insurance on any vehicle. If the plates are not returned, you owe registration fees and insurance. Return the plates and it all stops. David On Apr 5, 2014 4:43 PM, "Ron Ristad" <_ristad@sprynet.com_ (mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: I'm back in the U.S. for one week. I arrived to find a letter from the FL DMV notifying me that because I did not renew the insurance on a car that is no longer in use my driver's license had been suspended, and that if I did not provide proof of insurance for the car that is no longer in use by 11/13/13 I would be fined $500 and failure to pay the fine will result in incarceration. Can't wait to get back to Costa Rica before I get thrown in jail indefinitely on "suspicion" of something and denied access to a lawyer. This place SUCKS! -RR .... .... .... ____________________________________________________________ _Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! _ (http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/534480ba219e4b973fast01vuc) _classmates.com_ (http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/534480ba219e4b973fast01vuc)