RR and the rest of you anti socialist white guys Name a single, developed country which doesn't have a respected, socialist movement with socialist media and legislators? Even our United States has an independent socialist Senator Bernie Sanders and I just heard his name along with the respected very Liberal Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, both of whom have been mentioned as possible runners for the President. On CBS's Face The Nation today where their views was discussed, was any of you listening? To you know it all, sheeple, runners with the common herd of brain washed masses, know nothings of socialisim, man-o-man do you lack an education on socialisim. Name a school that goes along with your stupid Welfare, Food Stamps, charities, the Democratic Party, Liberals, etc as proof of socialisim? In any respected country other then America, your views would be labeled as the lunatic fringe of the know nothing right. Think, think, think. The Honorable Comrade B -----Original Message----- From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, May 10, 2014 12:52 pm Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts Kelly, Repeat. You are talking about another time and era. Life was much different 150 years ago. If slavery were to be made legal again it then would still be a crime to do the horrible things you liberals like to talk about. Please tell me what is worse than secret police knocking at your door at 4 am and dragging you off for questioning, never to be seen again? This is the true face of socialism. -RR -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Sent: May 10, 2014 10:04 AM To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts Ron, This is good. All of us, white and black citizens, now live in the same socialist nightmare. So you're saying that rather than living in our current circumstances, that we'd all be better off as as human chattel, chained, beaten, made to work without a free moment, separated from our family members, and once we're no longer capable of performing any useful tasks, left to die without proper medical care. Got it. Thank you for the clarification. Kelly A. Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:35:04 -0600 From: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts RG, You really are obsessed with that statement I made. I ask again what connection does it have with the Keystone pipeline? BY DEFINITION a slave is not free. But a slave in a free society at least has a chance to become a freeman. On the other hand no person, black or white, has freedom in a repressive society. This is what I meant and I'm pretty sure this is what Cliven Bundy meant. -RR -----Original Message----- From: R George Sent: May 9, 2014 11:15 AM To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts RR, Would this come under your heading of Facts or Opinions? "I agree with Bundy that blacks have less freedom under socialism than they did as slaves." 04/24/2014 RG On 5/9/2014 9:40 AM, Ron Ristad wrote: Opinions are beliefs people hold. They can be based on truth or they can be based on lies. They can be based on the latest information or they can be based on outdated information. Opinions can be changed. I change my opinions all the time when new information arrives. If I have an opinion about something and somebody presents information that contradicts my opinion and the information is credible then I change my opinion. Simple as that. Facts are real and not subject to opinion. That being said, some "facts" can be manipulated, such as the unemployment rate or the rate of inflation. The U.S. Government is famous for this. They simply change the way they calculate these things. In this case they aren't really lying but I would call it deception. Many people believe things they read on the Internet that are just somebody else's opinion and in some cases are half truths or outright lies designed to manipulate public opinion. Governments lie all the time. All you need to do to verify this is to read the official news stories in different countries. They often have completely different versions of what transpired. One or the other has to be lying. -RR "When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer" - Stevie Wonder "Superstition" ... ...