[sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts

  • From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)
  • To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, aiclw@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 21:27:24 -0400 (EDT)

RR and the rest of you anti socialist white guys
Name a single, developed country which doesn't have a respected, socialist 
movement with socialist
media and legislators? Even our United States has an independent socialist 
Senator Bernie Sanders
and I just heard his name along with the respected very Liberal Democratic 
Senator Elizabeth Warren,
 both of whom have been mentioned as possible runners for the President. On 
CBS's Face The Nation
today where their views was discussed, was any of you listening?

To you know it all, sheeple, runners with the common herd of brain washed 
masses, know nothings
of socialisim, man-o-man do you lack an education on socialisim. Name a school 
that goes along with
your stupid Welfare, Food Stamps, charities, the Democratic Party, Liberals, 
etc as proof of socialisim?
In any respected country other then America, your views would be labeled as the 
lunatic fringe of the
know nothing right. Think, think, think.

The Honorable Comrade B    

   
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, May 10, 2014 12:52 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts


Kelly,
Repeat. You are talking about another time and era. Life was much different 150 
years ago. If slavery were to be made legal again it then would still be a 
crime to do the horrible things you liberals like to talk about.  

Please tell me what is worse than secret police knocking at your door at 4 am 
and dragging you off for questioning, never to be seen again?  This is the true 
face of socialism.

-RR

-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly 
Sent: May 10, 2014 10:04 AM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts


Ron,

This is good.  All of us, white and black citizens, now live in the same 
socialist nightmare.  So you're saying that rather than living in our current 
circumstances, that we'd all be better off as as human chattel, chained, 
beaten, made to work without  a free moment, separated from our family members, 
and once we're no longer capable of performing any useful tasks, left to die 
without proper medical care.

Got it.  Thank you for the clarification.

Kelly A.



Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:35:04 -0600
From: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts

RG,
You really are obsessed with that statement I made. I ask again what connection 
does it have with the Keystone pipeline? 

BY DEFINITION a slave is not free. But a slave in a free society at least has a 
chance to become a freeman. On the other hand no person, black or white, has 
freedom in a repressive society. This is what I meant and I'm pretty sure this 
is what Cliven Bundy meant.

-RR

-----Original Message-----
From: R George 
Sent: May 9, 2014 11:15 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts

              RR,
    
    Would this come under your heading of Facts or Opinions?
    
    "I agree with Bundy that blacks have less freedom under socialism    than 
they did as slaves."
    04/24/2014
    
    RG
    
    
On 5/9/2014 9:40 AM, Ron Ristad wrote:
    
    
      Opinions            are beliefs people hold. They can be based on truth 
or they can be based                  on lies. They can be based on the         
           latest information or they can be based on outdated information. 
                        
                      Opinions can be changed. I change my opinions all the 
time when new information arrives. If I have an opinion                         
 about something and somebody presents                          information 
that contradicts my opinion      and the information is credible then I change 
my opinion.      Simple as that. 
      
      Facts are real and not subject to opinion.
        
        That being said, some "facts" can            be manipulated, such as 
the unemployment rate or the rate of inflation. The U.S. Government             
   is famous for this. They simply change                  the way they 
calculate these things. In this case they                  aren't really lying 
but                      I would call it                          deception.
                  
                  Many people believe                      things they read on 
the Internet                        that are just somebody                      
      else's opinion                                and in some cases are       
                           half truths or outright lies designed                
                  to manipulate public                                    
opinion. Governments                                      lie all the time. All 
                                       you need to do to verify this is to read 
                                         the official                           
                 news stories in                                              
different countries. They often have                                            
    completely                                                  different       
                                             versions of what                   
                                 transpired. One or the                         
                               other has to be                                  
                      lying.
                
        -RR
            
"When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer"
- Stevie Wonder "Superstition"
    
    
  
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