DR, JS, RR, etc. CHARITY AND/OR GOVT. WELFARE IS NOT SOCIALISIM, IT IS A TOOL OF CAPTALISIM TO PREVENT REBELLION. GOT IT? UNDER SOCIALISIM THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION IS OWNED BY THE PEOPLE, IE: THE GOVERMENT. UNDER CAPTALISIM IT IS OWNED BY THE CAPTALISTS. CAN'T YOU DUMMIES UNDERSTAND THESE SIMPLE FACTS? THINK, THINK, THINK. Comrade B -----Original Message----- From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx> To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 7:23 pm Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Opinions vs. Facts It think Bundy's statement would be more correct to say: "Blacks have less freedom under socialist imprisionment than they did as slaves." You will find some blacks agree with Bundy's statements, he is not saying that slavery is a good thing, he is saying that what we have is a bad thing. The very first group of black women I met would agree with Bundy that their families are improsioned and starving to death because of socialism. There is much more to life than food stamps. 73 DR On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM, R George <xgeorge@xxxxxxx> wrote: RR, Would this come under your heading of Facts or Opinions? "I agree with Bundy that blacks have less freedom under socialism than they did as slaves." 04/24/2014 RG On 5/9/2014 9:40 AM, Ron Ristad wrote: Opinions are beliefs people hold. They can be based on truth or they can be based on lies. They can be based on the latest information or they can be based on outdated information. Opinions can be changed. I change my opinions all the time when new information arrives. If I have an opinion about something and somebody presents information that contradicts my opinion and the information is credible then I change my opinion. Simple as that. Facts are real and not subject to opinion. That being said, some "facts" can be manipulated, such as the unemployment rate or the rate of inflation. The U.S. Government is famous for this. They simply change the way they calculate these things. In this case they aren't really lying but I would call it deception. Many people believe things they read on the Internet that are just somebody else's opinion and in some cases are half truths or outright lies designed to manipulate public opinion. Governments lie all the time. All you need to do to verify this is to read the official news stories in different countries. They often have completely different versions of what transpired. One or the other has to be lying. -RR "When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer" - Stevie Wonder "Superstition"