Understand entirely Jan...I¹ve been in panic mode today and I can only wait to see what my ricing mix looks like when I unmould tomorrow. Great to hear that the colour is OK, it should harden up. Louise PS Unsure about pots, I use stainless steel pots on 20/6/10 2:40 PM, Jan Abernethy at janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi all > > After my colour disaster yesterday and the strangeness that was happening, I > have been un-molding my soaps today and they seem a little softer than my > first batch, but they should harden (I hope) and the colour turned out to be a > very pretty colour, with me using the wrong stuff, so I¹m happy with the > outcome, yay! Talk about panic though, when something goes wrong, it¹s > terrible, you think Ohh what a waste a time and money that was, especially > when you don¹t think it¹s going to turn out so I am very pleasantly > surprised by the outcome. My first batch was harder than this one so I¹m > hoping this batch will harden a lot more. > > Does the pot you make it in, make a difference? I had a old pot of Mums > (clean) but wonder whether the type of stuff they used in old pots are > reactive to the soap making procedure. As I said yesterday it hissed, like > when you boil a jug of water and empty it too soon. > > As a beginner I¹m keeping everything basic at this stage so I get the knack, > especially of the ³trace² when it happens. I¹d rather get the basics right > before heading off in the adventure direction. > > Now I can¹t wait to buy some correct colour for CP soap and achieve the colour > I desire. I can use the wrong colour for some M&P soap one day. > > Thanks for everyone¹s help, it¹s been great. And Gina it looks like soap, > smells like soap, it is soap! > > Jan > > > From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Soapcraft > Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 4:24 p.m. > To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour > > It will probably set. It is very rare that we loose a batch of soap. It will > likely make great laundry soap also. > > Assuming that the base is water (Rebecca might know) they should not effect > your soap. So it should be ok. You will know tomorrow so pls let us know. > If it looks like soap, smells like soap then it probably is soap :-) > > gina > > > On 19/06/10 4:13 PM, "Jan Abernethy" <janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Gina > About ½ of the little plastic bottle. The colour is the liquid, I think I > bought the wrong stuff. > My first batch of soap made last week was exactly the same ingredients apart > from the colour. The water is lavender hydrosol from our lavender oil > distillation and was the same as used last week. Caustic soda same, everything > same except the colour. > Do you think it will set? > Regards Jan > > > From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Soapcraft > Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 3:57 p.m. > To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour > > Now on reading your second post my guess is right. > > Yes pigments for soap. > > That may have casued the hissing?? Did you wind up adding the whole bottle? > > Gina > > > On 19/06/10 3:08 PM, "Jan Abernethy" <janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I¹ve just looked and touched a bit and it¹s really soft, runnyish, not at all > like my previous ³first² batch. I don¹t know if it will set, panic, panic. > > The colour I got from Aromatics and More. Water Soluble Liquid Colors - Is > this not suitable for CP soap? I think I bought the wrong stuff - was I > supposed to get Pigments for Soap? > Maybe that¹s why is all turned to custard, so to speak. > > J > > > > From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Louise Shing > Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 2:55 p.m. > To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour > > Hi Jan > > > The colours I use come from Soapcraft and are in powder form I used to just > add about 1/4 teaspoon or less to the batch straight, now, after advice from > Ross and Liz, I put the same amount in a little bit of olive oil and give it a > quick whizz with a coffee frother, then mix with the batch of soap after > trace. Yeah colour is a really hard thing to get right, when I first started > I used a rather heavy hand and had soaps that were full of colour (in spite of > Gina¹s advice to go easy with the powder) then next batch put in too little > and no change in colour kept adding and adding and adding and was (like you) > disappointed with the colour, but after unmoulding discovered quite a pretty > colour. Just to let you know that the violet colour is, in my opinion, very > difficult to work with. I¹m very fond of the Raspberry Red colour and Sky > Blue (you only need a small amount). > > I¹m not sure about the rest as I¹ve never had froth or hissing when mixing > oils and lye water (but I¹m super cautious-type and do everything slowly). > Hopefully others might have an idea. Good luck and let us know how the colour > turns out. By the way one of the best colours I have had came out of a batch > that was creamy-light pink in colour but after unmoulding was a nice pale > pink!! > > > Cheers > Louise > > > on 19/6/10 2:35 PM, Jan Abernethy at janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi Louise, Gina and everyone > > I made some soap today with Gina¹s colour. I put a drop, another drop and > ended up putting more and more because it was hardly making any difference at > all. I was the mauve little container. It didn¹t turn out mauve, it¹s a kind > of creamy colour. I also think something was not quite right, because I > seemed to have froth when I put the water mixture in with the oils. It is the > same recipe I used last time but I times¹d it by 4 to make a bigger batch as > there wasn¹t enough last time. It also started hissing a little like it was > reacting. > > Any ideas to what I may have done wrong. I was very very careful and measured > everything to the enth degree but something went wrong and I¹m so disappointed > about the colour. I was expected mauve. I put it into the moulds so will be > interested to see whether it worked at all. I made it a lot thinner than my > previous ³to thick to pour² time. > > Thoughts other soapers for a newbie? > Regards Jan > > > From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Louise Shing > Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:40 p.m. > To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [soapcraft] Re: photo > > Hi Jan > > You have to act quickly when mixing soap as soon as you get trace you need to > mix in colour and eos and pour. As a beginner I used to always have a thick > trace as had to make sure had trace before pouring. Now after several months > or so (and lots more confidence) I sometimes get a thin trace and when I pour > with thin trace I get a nice smooth top/pattern. > > You¹ve used the wrong stuff for colouring cp-soap cake decorating gel is for > cakes the colour won¹t take to cp-soap. I use Gina¹s colours which work > well, use only about a pinch but mix well first in a little bit of oil they > are bright colours. If you¹re more inclined to use natural - Liz (on the > list) sells natural colour haven¹t used yet but I intend to try out alkanet > root soon. > > Can¹t use soap straight away as it needs to cure for a minimum of 4 weeks > shed water, get right PH, etc otherwise might be too harsh on skin. > > > Cheers > Louise > > Nighty night! > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2947 - Release Date: 06/18/10 > 18:35:00 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2947 - Release Date: 06/18/10 > 18:35:00 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2947 - Release Date: 06/18/10 > 18:35:00 >