Hi all
After my colour disaster yesterday and the strangeness that was
happening, I have been un-molding my soaps today and they seem a little softer
than my first batch, but they should harden (I hope) and the colour turned out
to be a very pretty colour, with me using the wrong stuff, so I’m happy with
the outcome, yay! Talk about panic though, when something goes
wrong, it’s terrible, you think Ohh what a waste a time and money that was,
especially when you don’t think it’s going to turn out – so I am very
pleasantly surprised by the outcome. My first batch was harder than this
one so I’m hoping this batch will harden a lot more.
Does the pot you make it in, make a difference? I had a
old pot of Mums (clean) but wonder whether the type of stuff they used in old
pots are reactive to the soap making procedure. As I said yesterday it
hissed, like when you boil a jug of water and empty it too soon.
As a beginner I’m keeping everything basic at this stage so I
get the knack, especially of the “trace” when it happens. I’d rather get
the basics right before heading off in the adventure direction.
Now I can’t wait to buy some correct colour for CP soap and
achieve the colour I desire. I can use the wrong colour for some M&P
soap one day.
Thanks for everyone’s help, it’s been great. And Gina – it
looks like soap, smells like soap, it is soap!
Jan
From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Soapcraft
Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 4:24 p.m.
To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour
It will probably set. It is very rare
that we loose a batch of soap. It will likely make great laundry soap
also.
Assuming that the base is water (Rebecca might know) they should not effect
your soap. So it should be ok. You will know tomorrow so pls let us
know. If it looks like soap, smells like soap then it probably is soap
:-)
gina
On 19/06/10 4:13 PM, "Jan Abernethy" <janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Gina
About ∏ of the little plastic bottle. The colour is the liquid, I think I
bought the wrong stuff.
My first batch of soap made last week was exactly the same ingredients apart
from the colour. The water is lavender hydrosol from our lavender oil
distillation and was the same as used last week. Caustic soda same, everything
same except the colour.
Do you think it will set?
Regards Jan
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On Behalf Of Soapcraft
Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 3:57 p.m.
To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour
Now on
reading your second post my guess is right.
Yes pigments for soap.
That may have casued the hissing?? Did you wind up adding the whole
bottle?
Gina
On 19/06/10 3:08 PM, "Jan Abernethy" <janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’ve just looked and touched a bit and it’s really soft, runnyish, not at all
like my previous “first” batch. I don’t know if it will set, panic,
panic.
The colour I got from Aromatics and More. Water
Soluble Liquid Colors - Is this not suitable for CP soap? I think I bought the
wrong stuff - was I supposed to get Pigments for Soap?
Maybe
that’s why is all turned to custard, so to speak.
J
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On Behalf Of Louise Shing
Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 2:55 p.m.
To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour
Hi Jan
The colours I use come from Soapcraft and are in powder form I used to just add
about 1/4 teaspoon or less to the batch straight, now, after advice from Ross
and Liz, I put the same amount in a little bit of olive oil and give it a quick
whizz with a coffee frother, then mix with the batch of soap after trace.
Yeah colour is a really hard thing to get right, when I first started I
used a rather heavy hand and had soaps that were full of colour (in spite of
Gina’s advice to go easy with the powder) then next batch put in too little and
no change in colour kept adding and adding and adding and was (like you)
disappointed with the colour, but after unmoulding discovered quite a pretty
colour. Just to let you know that the violet colour is, in my opinion,
very difficult to work with. I’m very fond of the Raspberry Red colour
and Sky Blue (you only need a small amount).
I’m not sure about the rest as I’ve never had froth or hissing when mixing oils
and lye water (but I’m super cautious-type and do everything slowly).
Hopefully others might have an idea. Good luck and let us know how
the colour turns out. By the way one of the best colours I have had came
out of a batch that was creamy-light pink in colour but after unmoulding was a
nice pale pink!!
Cheers
Louise
on 19/6/10 2:35 PM, Jan Abernethy at janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
Hi Louise, Gina and everyone
I made some soap today with Gina’s colour. I put a drop, another drop and
ended up putting more and more because it was hardly making any difference at
all. I was the mauve little container. It didn’t turn out mauve, it’s a
kind of creamy colour. I also think something was not quite right, because
I seemed to have froth when I put the water mixture in with the oils. It
is the same recipe I used last time but I times’d it by 4 to make a bigger
batch as there wasn’t enough last time. It also started hissing a little
like it was reacting.
Any ideas to what I may have done wrong. I was very very careful and
measured everything to the enth degree but something went wrong and I’m so
disappointed about the colour. I was expected mauve. I put it into the moulds
so will be interested to see whether it worked at all. I made it a lot
thinner than my previous “to thick to pour” time.
Thoughts other soapers for a newbie?
Regards Jan
From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Louise Shing
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:40 p.m.
To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [soapcraft] Re: photo
Hi Jan
You have to act quickly when mixing soap as soon as you get trace you need to
mix in colour and eos and pour. As a beginner I used to always have a
thick trace as had to make sure had trace before pouring. Now after
several months or so (and lots more confidence) I sometimes get a thin
trace and when I pour with thin trace I get a nice smooth top/pattern.
You’ve used the wrong stuff for colouring cp-soap – cake decorating gel is for
cakes – the colour won’t take to cp-soap. I use Gina’s colours which work
well, use only about a pinch but mix well first in a little bit of oil – they
are bright colours. If you’re more inclined to use natural - Liz (on the
list) sells natural colour – haven’t used yet but I intend to try out alkanet
root soon.
Can’t use soap straight away as it needs to cure for a minimum of 4 weeks –
shed water, get right PH, etc otherwise might be too harsh on skin.
Cheers
Louise
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