Ken, at my company we've evaluated several and own licenses of several of the SI tools mentioned below and own licenses for a few of them. To answer your question, our favorite for post route SI analysis is the Cadence SpecctraQuest SI Expert toolsuite. Regards, Fabrizio Zanella EMC Corporation -----Original Message----- From: Ken Cantrell [mailto:Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:51 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis Andy, Every vendor of note, and many emerging vendors, have the tools to do the job. You have to look at them all and make the choice that best fits your application. You just heard from Wes (works for Mentor), and Tom (works for Innoveda). I personally like Andy's response better (not to be confused with the company Andy represents), because it was shorter. I don't work for any of them; just an SI jock like yourself. Every vendor makes a competitive product, otherwise they wouldn't be in existence. Each vendor plays to a particular product niche where they can differentiate themselves from the competition. Get an eval license and try them out for yourself. List of companies to start your search (certainly not an exaustive list or in any preferential order): Mentor Innoveda Cadence Sigrity Quantic EMC Applied Simulation Technologies Ansoft EMS-plus If you are an EDA rep, and I didn't list your company, and you want to put in your two-bits, just post your link please. Thanks, Ken PS - nice job Tom -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom Barber Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:06 AM To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis Andy - Two other product recommendations. XTK and HyperLynx Boardsim Tom Barber -----Original Message----- From: Andrew H.Barr [mailto:andyb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:07 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] post layout SI analysis I am looking for recommendations to do post layout data extraction and simulation for crosstalk etc. Anybody out there have their favorite method? I am interested both in tools and in companies that do this as a service. Thanks Andy Barr ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu