[SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis
- From: "Ken Cantrell" <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:00:29 -0600
Richard,
I concurr. An informed opinion does not constitute bias. My apologies,
Fabrizio. But only because Fabrizio has nothing to gain economically. He
was simply recounting his experience with several of the packages, which is
what the list is for. Thanks for pointing this out.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard A. Schumacher
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:11 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis
Err, Ken, what question was that? Andy originally asked
for opinions and recommendations, and Fabrizio replied
appropriately with opinions and recommendations. An
informed opinion does not constitute bias.
regards,
Richard Schumacher
Hewlett Packard Company
> Fabrizio,
> That wasn't the question. I didn't ask for opinions, just data. Don't
want
> to know your "favorite". Your favorite works for you in your work
paradigm,
> and may not work for someone else. Let's keep this unbiased.
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of zanella, fabrizio
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:11 PM
> To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis
>
>
> Ken, at my company we've evaluated several and own licenses of several of
> the SI tools mentioned below and own licenses for a few of them. To
answer
> your question, our favorite for post route SI analysis is the Cadence
> SpecctraQuest SI Expert toolsuite.
> Regards,
> Fabrizio Zanella
> EMC Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cantrell [mailto:Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:51 AM
> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis
>
>
>
> Andy,
> Every vendor of note, and many emerging vendors, have the tools to do the
> job. You have to look at them all and make the choice that best fits your
> application. You just heard from Wes (works for Mentor), and Tom (works
for
> Innoveda). I personally like Andy's response better (not to be confused
> with the company Andy represents), because it was shorter. I don't work
for
> any of them; just an SI jock like yourself. Every vendor makes a
> competitive product, otherwise they wouldn't be in existence. Each vendor
> plays to a particular product niche where they can differentiate
themselves
> from the competition. Get an eval license and try them out for yourself.
> List of companies to start your search (certainly not an exaustive list or
> in any preferential order):
> Mentor
> Innoveda
> Cadence
> Sigrity
> Quantic EMC
> Applied Simulation Technologies
> Ansoft
> EMS-plus
> If you are an EDA rep, and I didn't list your company, and you want to put
> in your two-bits, just post your link please.
> Thanks,
> Ken
> PS - nice job Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom Barber
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:06 AM
> To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: post layout SI analysis
>
>
>
> Andy -
>
> Two other product recommendations.
>
> XTK and HyperLynx Boardsim
>
> Tom Barber
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew H.Barr [mailto:andyb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:07 PM
> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] post layout SI analysis
>
>
> I am looking for recommendations to do post layout data extraction
> and simulation for crosstalk etc. Anybody out there have their
> favorite method? I am interested both in tools and in companies
> that do this as a service.
>
> Thanks
> Andy Barr
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