[SI-LIST] Re: Return current of a trace in stripline

  • From: Vinu Arumugham <vinu@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:02:08 -0700

"the current will take the path of least inductance"
Better to tweak that to "the /bulk of the/ current will take the path of 
least /impedance/".

Thanks,
Vinu

On 08/04/2013 10:00 PM, Carrier, Patrick wrote:
> Hello Balaji--
> You are correct in that the current will take the path of least inductance at 
> higher frequencies - which is precisely why it will couple energy to the 
> planes through EM fields as opposed to just traveling down to the end of the 
> trace and looping back.  For this reason, it will couple onto both planes as 
> it propagates.  The amount of current in each plane will scale linearly with 
> the distance from the trace.
> There is a great IEEE paper on this topic: IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON 
> ELECTROMAGNETIC COMPATIBILITY, VOL. 49, NO. 1, FEBRUARY 2007
> So, if your planes are about the same distance from the trace (as in your 
> case) and the trace travels over a split in one of them, you will end up 
> radiating a lot of energy.
>
> However, you mention 3GHz as a frequency, which implies that you are running 
> some kind of SERDES, which is likely differential.  As has been discussed 
> previously on this list, one of the possible advantages of differential 
> signaling is less net return current in the reference plane.
>
> If you are interested, here is some more information on this topic: 
> http://blogs.mentor.com/hyperblog/blog/2012/10/10/return-current-on-a-stripline/
>
> --Pat
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Balaji G
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 1:43 PM
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> Subject: [SI-LIST] Return current of a trace in stripline
>
> Hi Experts,
>    We discussed a lot regarding path of return current before and this is 
> regarding the path of return current in a stripline trace. As far I learnt, 
> the return current will take the path of least resistance at low frequencies 
> and path of less inductance at high frequency and hence the reason that 
> return current travels in the plane directly under the signal's trace. My 
> question is if we consider a signal travelling in a stripline which is 
> sandwiched between the ground and split power plane where the signal to 
> ground distance is 3.7mils and signal to split power plane distance is 
> 4.3mils, should we worry about the split power plane at high frequency (say 
> 3GHz) as the signal to ground distance is the path of least inductance and 
> all the return current for high frequency signal trace flows in the ground 
> plane causing no reflection/ EMI issues? Is my thinking right?  Can you 
> please provide your thoughts on this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Balaji
>
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