Sitar, when is enough, enough already? The internet has lots of places where you can relive preteen provocation and rhetoric with abandon. Please stop doing it here. Steve. At 08:46 AM 9/23/2004 -0700, Sitar Moniker wrote: >Readers know what to make out of this rationalization. >"Michael E. Vrbanac" <vrbanacm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Sitar, >re: "But, item 2. discourages controversial questions/points. I hope >this is your personal >opinion only and not reflect list opinion. My personal opinion is >controversy (discussion of >differing viewpoints) promotes new ideas or at least fix misconceptions. " > >Sorry, try again. #2 still stands. Your apology says it was right. >Why would you have apologized >for your opinion? Its because you were engaging in controversy. Had you >been actually discussing a >viewpoint, an apology would not have been necessary. Who would have >faulted you of your opinion? >So you even know the difference. What might have started as a discussion >became controversy and >something you felt needed an apology, and perhaps rightly so and thus a >commendable act. That's >what #2 was all about. If you would have followed it, you probably >wouldn't have had to apologize >and the outcome would have been entirely different. Controversies >divide, collaboration unites. > >re: so you haven't found yourself a "guru"... here's why... >You aren't looking for a "guru". If you were, you'd have already found >one. You are looking for a >mentor. That's a much different thing even though they can be the same >person. It would be helpful >to look for the right thing. Anyway... > >We have a lot of very accomplished folks here. Are they gurus? Who's to >say but I'll bet you'll get >your honest questions answered if you ask and respond properly. > >re: is the SI-LIST for you? maybe/maybe not >If you're up to the challenge of communicating well and really want to >pitch in on what we're trying to >do here, then I'm sure things will go much better than they have. >However, if not, you might be better >served looking for a "debate forum" where you can exercise that >"controversial" part of yourself more >productively. Its even possible you might even do both. The decision is >up to you. > >Michael E. Vrbanac > > >Chris Cheng wrote: > > >I'm just an average engineer, no expert, guru or obe won. I couldn't care > >less if you are a monkey or chimpanzee. But at least tell me what company or > >where you come from. People should be proud of themselves whether they come > >from Bannana Republic or People's Republic. > >Don't be a girly man, don't hide in a hotmail or yahoo account and afraid to > >tell people your background. Expert or novice we all come here to learn and > >share. So tell me something about your background in this area and who do > >you work for ? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sitar Moniker [mailto:si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx] > >Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:50 AM > >To: vrbanacm@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list > >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List > > > > > >This is a well balanced prescription covering several types. But, item 2. > >discourages controversial questions/points. I hope this is your personal > >opinion only and not reflect list opinion. > > > >Thank you for taking time to explain human aspect of how askers are > >perceived and answered. I agree that is the reality. > > > >Expertise of all experts can be fit into a bell curve. At the far end of > >the curve, there will be very few experts who are not distracted by login > >names. For them, si_diamond is no different from si_monkey. They understand > >implications of the question and what is on asker's mind. They have > >integrated knowledge and answer to meet asker's viewpoint. They are gurus. > >My quest is to find such guru. On this list or some other place. > > > >I appreciate all who contributed to both threads. I learnt much subject and > >protocols. 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