Readers know what to make out of this rationalization. "Michael E. Vrbanac" <vrbanacm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Sitar, re: "But, item 2. discourages controversial questions/points. I hope this is your personal opinion only and not reflect list opinion. My personal opinion is controversy (discussion of differing viewpoints) promotes new ideas or at least fix misconceptions. " Sorry, try again. #2 still stands. Your apology says it was right. Why would you have apologized for your opinion? Its because you were engaging in controversy. Had you been actually discussing a viewpoint, an apology would not have been necessary. Who would have faulted you of your opinion? So you even know the difference. What might have started as a discussion became controversy and something you felt needed an apology, and perhaps rightly so and thus a commendable act. That's what #2 was all about. If you would have followed it, you probably wouldn't have had to apologize and the outcome would have been entirely different. Controversies divide, collaboration unites. re: so you haven't found yourself a "guru"... here's why... You aren't looking for a "guru". If you were, you'd have already found one. You are looking for a mentor. That's a much different thing even though they can be the same person. It would be helpful to look for the right thing. Anyway... We have a lot of very accomplished folks here. Are they gurus? Who's to say but I'll bet you'll get your honest questions answered if you ask and respond properly. re: is the SI-LIST for you? maybe/maybe not If you're up to the challenge of communicating well and really want to pitch in on what we're trying to do here, then I'm sure things will go much better than they have. However, if not, you might be better served looking for a "debate forum" where you can exercise that "controversial" part of yourself more productively. Its even possible you might even do both. The decision is up to you. Michael E. Vrbanac Chris Cheng wrote: >I'm just an average engineer, no expert, guru or obe won. I couldn't care >less if you are a monkey or chimpanzee. But at least tell me what company or >where you come from. People should be proud of themselves whether they come >from Bannana Republic or People's Republic. >Don't be a girly man, don't hide in a hotmail or yahoo account and afraid to >tell people your background. Expert or novice we all come here to learn and >share. So tell me something about your background in this area and who do >you work for ? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sitar Moniker [mailto:si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:50 AM >To: vrbanacm@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List > > >This is a well balanced prescription covering several types. But, item 2. >discourages controversial questions/points. I hope this is your personal >opinion only and not reflect list opinion. > >Thank you for taking time to explain human aspect of how askers are >perceived and answered. I agree that is the reality. > >Expertise of all experts can be fit into a bell curve. At the far end of >the curve, there will be very few experts who are not distracted by login >names. For them, si_diamond is no different from si_monkey. They understand >implications of the question and what is on asker's mind. They have >integrated knowledge and answer to meet asker's viewpoint. They are gurus. >My quest is to find such guru. On this list or some other place. > >I appreciate all who contributed to both threads. I learnt much subject and >protocols. My apologies if I hurt feelings in the process (incl this post) >without my knowledge. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu