[SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List
- From: "Tom Dagostino" <tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Chris.Cheng@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx>, <MikonCons@xxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:07:04 -0700
I sense a lot of frustration here. On Sitar's side because he is not
getting the answers he wants. On SI List respondents' side because of
perception.
Regis McKenna once wrote "perception is all there is". The general meaning
of this is that people will form impressions, right or wrong, about a
product (Regis' context) by what they can see about that product.
The other saying that seems to apply here is "you only have one chance to
make a first impression". Whether it is a new product or meeting a person
for the first time, this applies.
Sitar, you have a screen name that comes across as un-professional.
Advertising yourself as a monkey does not place your best foot forward, your
first impression is not favorable. People won't take you seriously.
People will try to understand who is asking the question before answering.
I know that many times before I'll answer a question on this list I'll look
up the company or institution that the questioner is associated with.
Sometimes it gives me insight into where the answer needs to go. College
students get one answer, a long time SI expert gets a different answer. For
a number of reasons yahoo accounts have a poor perception, to many of the
questions lately that could have been answered with a little research have
come from yahoo addresses.
People tend to do things colored by what they perceive as their best
interests. Most engineers don't want to educate their or their companies'
competitors. Not knowing who they are talking to leads many to not want to
educate a potential competitor.
Which leads to perception is colored by people who also have not placed
their best foot forward. Call it guilt by association. A lot of the
questions by these people are really very basic. One question that comes
to mind recently was from a consulting firm that is making an IBIS model for
someone else (I assume) and has not read the IBIS specification. The
question in this case was not rocket science, it is knowledge that I expect
a technician working for me to be able to look up and understand.
I can understand the frustration of people who see qualified friends without
jobs while others cannot do the job they were hired to do. Unfortunately
the electronics industry seems to have gotten into a management mode of
engineers are interchangeable, you can assign any "engineering job" to
anybody with an "engineering degree". I think there may have been a time
that applied but it was not in my lifetime. SI is the realm of analog
effects but too many people without an appreciation for anything analog have
been assigned to do jobs in this area. That is a fault of our institutions
of higher education and the MBA mindset. Digital was all that was taught
for years. Students come out of school who have touched a couple of digital
CAD tools and they think they are ready to tackle all problems. Somewhere
down the line they get bit by a transmission line or a PDS. The good ones
get curious and learn about them. Too many find a quick band aide. Don't
get me started on MBAs.
I have not followed this thread in detail, I used the Delete button quickly
in most cases. I have looked at responses from people I know and respect
who contribute to this list. I do learn a lot from them.
Many of the responses on this list are telling the questioner to learn to
fish. Buy the tools you are going to use (I'm amazed I had to say that),
learn how to use them, learn everything you can about analog effects and
most importantly, learn to apply what you have learned.
Tom Dagostino
Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC
503-430-1065
tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.teraspeed.com
-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Cheng
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 4:28 PM
To: 'si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx'; MikonCons@xxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List
Sitar,
I'm just a low life engineer getting paid just above minimum wage and a few
t-shirts. I don't have a Ph.D nor do I have three times the client waiting
for me to help them. But I never use my personal email account in here
because I am proud of what I do and there is nothing to hide about where I
come from.
Perphaps if you care to share who your current employer is and something
about your background we can have a better understand why you think the way
you react.
As for the comment about high school physics, I actually learn Maxwell and
telegrapher equations in high school so there are certain places on earth
where your discussion falls into high school physics.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sitar Moniker [mailto:si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:59 AM
To: MikonCons@xxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List
I am new to this list. After these posts, I thought the forum is designed to
serve the interests of successful consultants and I am at a wrong party. I
was about to unsubscribe. But, subsequent posts tell me otherwise and it is
OK to ask questions that are not "give me a basic education" type. Don't ask
for IP also.
Let us see if the Open Termination questions and follow-up questions I asked
fit into these categories. Obviously, they are not asking for IP because
nobody indicated as such. I don't think they are "give me a basic education"
type either. How the fields behave at the open ended line interface with
free space before and after reflection is not high school physics. I know
this because I have a high school diploma.
What I would like to see is how this field behavior (which is not addressed
so far) can be explained using rubber bands and weights and conservation of
momentum. I would really appreciate if you or others explain this and
convince me that these questions deserve to be ignored by the SI elite.
MikonCons@xxxxxxx wrote:
Beautifully said, Ed.
I have not particpated in the SI forum for some time (while biting my tongue
to keep my opinions to myself) because of the plethora of "give me a basic
education" type questions, as well as some comments I have not agreed with.
Although my requests for consulting support has tripled over the last couple
of
months, I know of eight other competent consultants scratchin the gravel
beds for work.
Mike
Michael L. Conn
Owner/Principal Consultant
Mikon Consulting
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