[SI-LIST] Re: Pcie PLL bandwidth

  • From: bala <balaseven@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Nathan JP <jpnathan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:06:59 +0530

Hi nathan,
Thanks for your response.CPU has external 25Mhz oscillator(20ppm),CPU will
generate 100Mhz ref clock.Other two ref clocks (125MHz)are coming from
clock buffer.
Regards
bala
On 11 Jun 2014 02:02, "Nathan JP" <jpnathan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  Hi Bala,
>
> PLL follows Low frequency Jitter and cancels High freq Jitter. The Jitter
> in the data signal may be too fast to allow the PCIe PLL to follow it,
> hence the eye looks better.
> Constant clock based measurement gives better indication of the jitter
> issues and hence the bad eye.
>
> This could also indicate possible issue in PCIe Ref Clock source for the
> CPU (internal PLL/external clock Buffer) or its related power noise.
>
> Is there any difference in the PCIe Ref Clk configuration (like SSC,
> common clk/local clk) between these devices (CPU & ASIC/FPGA)?
> How are the Ref clocks distributed between each of these PCIe devices?
>
> Regards,
> Nathan JP
>  ------------------------------
> From: bala <balaseven@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: ‎10-‎06-‎2014 23:56
> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Pcie PLL bandwidth
>
>  Hello,
> I am validating chip-chip pcie gen 1 interface.My design has pcie link
> between CPU<-->ASIC and CPU<-->FPGA.I set constant clock as my recovery
> clock in my TEK scope and eye was good when ASIC and FPGA driving my
> CPU.Whereas, eye was bad and too much jitter was observed at RX when CPU
> driving other two devices.I changed my clock from constant mean to PLL (
> 1.5 Mhz bandwidth as specified in the pcie spec) and got same output(eye
> was good) when ASIC and FPGA driving , interestingly eye was good at this
> time when CPU driving other two devices.Everything seems okay when PLL was
> chosen as my recovery clock.I know clock should be PLL for pcie compliance
> testing (min 1.5 Mhz BW) as mentioned in the pcie specification.My question
> is why eye was good when other two devices driving my CPU in both the
> cases,whereas my eye was bad when constant clock was chosen and it was good
> when PLL was selected.
> Regards
> bala
>
>
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