Thanks Lee and all those who offered valuable suggestions offline. When do you really care to separate analog and digital grounds ? I see some transceiver vendors recommend splitting the grounds while others don't. Thanks, - Chris. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Lee Ritchey <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > First of all, there is no sacred rule that analog ground and digital ground > must be separate. Who knows where that came from. Use only one ground > plane and manage the current flows so that digital ground currents don't > flow under the area where the analog circuits are situated. It's pretty > easy to do in most cases. > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Chris Adam <chris.adamsipi@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 10/8/2009 5:47:35 PM > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Analog & Digital Grounds > > > > I am working on a PCB design where number of layers is limited to 4 to > > reduce cost. As opposed to the regular 'sacred rule', analog and digital > > grounds are not separated though the respective VDDs are isolated. I am > > particularly concerned that the merged ground is also a return path for > > DDR2 signals. I would like to see how much noise does this ground > merging > > will introduce in sensitive power supply nodes such as for PLL and CDR. > What > > would be the appropriate simulation set up for this ? I am thinking of > > multiport s-parameters, transfer impedance etc. I would appreciate if > any > > one shares his/her experience, thoughts and insights in this type of > > analysis. > > > > - Chris > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.net > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu