Yes. I'd suggest a quick turn fabrication of a board with an additional layers to ground reference the power fills and isolate them from each other. Ignas Mikulevicius wrote: > Hello, > First, some background: > I have a PCB design that is experiencing some jitter issues that we are > trying to get to the bottom of. It is a PCI Express design utilizing a > Xilinx FPGA. The PCI Express transceivers are powered by 1.0V core > circuitry, and 1.2V circuitry for the actual transmitter and the PLL. The > core and the PLL circuitry are extremely sensitive to noise. > One theory brought up was that we might be getting noise coupled into these > sensitive nodes from adjacent power planes. The nodes are implemented as > mini-planes on various layers of a 12 layer PCB. > For example, one of the PLL mini islands is on layer 8, with a +12V plane on > layer 7, with only a 3.4 mil spacing between the planes. There is no > adjacent ground plane, only a signal plane on layer 9, which is 12 mils > away. Similarly, layer 12 contains the 1.0V core mini-island as well as the > 1.2V transmitter power supply mini-plane. Layer 11 is flooded with +3.3V, > with a 2.9 mil separation from layer 12. > > *My question: Is it possible that noise on the +12V and +3.3V planes is > coupling into the sensitive transceiver nodes and causing jitter?* > > My initial opinion was that any ripple on the voltage planes would be too > small to actually couple into an adjacent plane, but maybe I am wrong? I > have read some of the archived posts considering similar topics, but did not > seem to find a definitive response. > Thank you very much in advance, > Ignas M. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed® is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu